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Bio sam kod otorinolaringologa zbog usi, ali je rekla da je to zbog kvara zuba, to sredjujem. Medjutim, rekla je da mi je alergija na nosu i dala mi neke tablete, koje nisam uzeo jer mi nije stanje tolko tragicno. Gledam gdje je kod mene najbolje da uradim alergo test, do tad, imate li kakve ideje sta bi moglo biti? Takodje, kakva se ishrana preporucuje za to?
Inace, ujtro je probudim za zacepljenim nosom, ponekad jednom stranom, ali do podneva obicno izcezne, mislio sam da je od hladnijeg vremena ali mozda ipak nije...
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Prestani jesti mlječne proizvode pa vidi.
Pozzz jesam, reci mi molim te kakve veze ima mleko,sir,jogurt sa alergijom? Jedini problem stvaraju mlečni proteini, ali kod male dece i veoma alergičnih osoba sa smanjenim imunitetom. Naravno govorim ISKLJUČIVO O KRAVLJEM mleku! Ono ima znatno veće molekule proteina od drugih vrsta mleka.
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Kazein koji je u stvari mlečna kiselina (protein-belančevina) i poneko ima alergiju na taj deo mleka, ali ta alergija je samo u tome da želudac ne vari i stvara tegobe,lagane. Istočnjački narodi su manje otporni nego evropljani pa manje koriste mleko. Deca do treće godine imaju otpornost koja se kasnije gubi. Kazein je u svim vrstama mleka. Ja ponekad popijem više mleka pred spavanje i imam (ponekad) pojačanu kiselinu u želucu i to je sve.
Čovek može prestati da konzumira sve od mleka 5 dana na primer pa da utvrdi ima li promena. Mora biti siguran šta utiče na njega, i nikako ne sme biti u zabludi oko nekih namirnica.
Utvrdjivanje uzroka alergijskih reakcija su najslozenije radnje i lekari ih izbegavaju ako situacija nije ozbiljna. Znam iz iskustva da mnogi lekari daju savete koji nisu naucno potvedjeni jer ne znaju sta je uzrok.
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Olio, problem je u kazeinu - što se lijepo objašnjava u filmiću koji sam stavila. Kazein je alergen.

Osim što je protein, on se ponaša u crijevima ko ljepilo i stvara sluz.

I griješiš ako misliš da ti mlijeko radi kiselinu. Mlijeko baš naprotiv smanjuje želučanu kiselinu i radi veliku štetu. S obzirom da povećava želučani ph, tako pojačava histaminsku reakciju jer jedino snažna želučana kiselina može uništiti alergene i patogene.

Pogledaj filmove koje sam stavila u ove dvije teme pa će ti sve biti jasno.


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Svakakvih sam se filmova nagledao...
na moju srecu imam dovoljno pameti da razumem sta u tim filmicima jeste tacno a sta ne...
ali znam i ljude koji mi kazu (ne mislim na tebe ) jel ' si cuo za ono? Koje, sta.. pa video sam na netu...
Mora se razlikovati tacno od proizvoljne tvrdnje.

Zapuseni nos nikakve VEZE nema sa mlekom! Probavni trakt -mozda, ali disajni organi - NIKAKO
ne zelim diakutovati vec pomoci savetom, ako mogu pa prekidam dalje na temu koju je otvorio ovaj covek.mozda jos neko da savet.

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Objašnjenje je dato od strane liječnika i da si ga poslušao, možda bi shvatio da je logično.

Mlječni proizvod imaju itekako veze s kongestiranom sluznicom, jer oticanje sluzice je posljedica alergijske reakcije a ona je potencirana lošom probavom a sve zbog manjka želučane kiseline koja se još i više smanjuje zbog konzumacije mlječnih proizvoda (začarani krug) - da ti je imalo jasna fiziologija shvatio bi koliko je to sve logično i povezano. Ali važno je ismijavati tamo gdje se nešto ne razumije.

Osim teorije, znam to i iz osobnog iskustva a i iz iskustva mnogih koji su taj savjet poslušali.

Na isti način utječe i gluten kao jedan od najsnažnijih iritansa.

Ovdje argumentirano izlažem stvari da pomognem čovjeku. Ne vidim koristi niti konkretnih argumenata u tvojem komentaru. Samo neslaganje i izrugivanje.


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Objašnjenje je dato od strane liječnika i da si ga poslušao, možda bi shvatio da je logično.

Mlječni proizvod imaju itekako veze s kongestiranom sluznicom, jer oticanje sluzice je posljedica alergijske reakcije a ona je potencirana lošom probavom a sve zbog manjka želučane kiseline koja se još i više smanjuje zbog konzumacije mlječnih proizvoda (začarani krug) - da ti je imalo jasna fiziologija shvatio bi koliko je to sve logično i povezano. Ali važno je ismijavati tamo gdje se nešto ne razumije.

Osim teorije, znam to i iz osobnog iskustva a i iz iskustva mnogih koji su taj savjet poslušali.

Na isti način utječe i gluten kao jedan od najsnažnijih iritansa.

Ovdje argumentirano izlažem stvari da pomognem čovjeku. Ne vidim koristi niti konkretnih argumenata u tvojem komentaru. Samo neslaganje i izrugivanje.
Pregledala si ovog čoveka pa znaš sve to?

Mnogo veca verovatnoca je da mu je imunitet iz nekog razloga oslabljen, mozda i tog upaljenog zuba, p mu stafilokoke i streptokoke lakse napadaju sluznicu nosa i uzrokuju sekret.
Rekao sam da ne želim rasprave već iznosim mišljenje, dok ti iznosis lično uvrede meni, iz sujete radi uzdizanja sopstvenog ega.
Čovek je bio kod lekara i dobio savet i lekove, ne trebaju mu filmovi sa neta,već lična iskustva, ovo je alternativa forum A ne skup jutjubera.
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Olio, jel mi govorimo istim jezikom?

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1) JA I GOVORIM IZ VLASTITOG ISKUSTVA! I sve skupa podupirem teoretskim znanjem.

2) Zašto misliš da čovjeku treba odvjetnik??? Neka on procijeni jel mu odgovor ok ili nije.

Ništa nikome ne namećem nego nastojim pomoći, za razliku od tebe koji samo prigovaraš. Kakve to veze ima s mojim egom zaista ne znam. Ali ako je ego taj koji me tjera da pomažem drugima svojim iskustvom i slušam podrivanja i maltretiranja likove poput tebe, onda ok.

Čovjek je tražio savjet za alergiju a ne za stafilokok. Jasno je da nemam uvid u njegovo stanje ali sam pročitala i njegove druge postove koji su mi dali malo bolju sliku - što je tebi očigledno promaklo.

Imaš li čovjeku dati kakav konkretan savjet ili samo trolaš i sabotiraš mene iz nekog samo tebi poznatog razloga?


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Olio, jel mi govorimo istim jezikom?

JA GOVORIM IZ VLASTITOG ISKUSTVA!

A sve skupa podupirem teoretskim znanjem.

Ništa nikome ne namećem nego nastojim pomoći, za razliku od tebe koji samo prigovaraš. Kakve to veze ima s mojim egom zaista ne znam. Ali ako je ego taj koji me tjera da pomažem drugima svojim iskustvom i slušam ovakve likove poput tebe, onda ok.

Čovjek je tražio savjet za alergiju a ne za stafilokok. Jasno je da nemam uvid u njegovo stanje ali sam pročitala i njegove druge postoje koji su mi dali malo bolju sliku - što je tebi očigledno promaklo.

Imaš li čovjeku dati kakav konkretan savjet ili samo trolaš i sabotiraš mene iz nekog samo tebi poznatog razloga?
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