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Nepročitano 19-02-13, 05:54   #1
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Mada, ovakav stav ukida značenje altruizma. Razlika između štetne sebičnosti i altruizma je upravo u vrednovanju svojine. Onda kada bi nestalo vrednovanje koje služi trgovanju, tada altruizam postaje stanje koje nema alternative pa samim time pojam gubi identitet.
Znači, altruizam ima svoje značenje sve dok postoji drugačije.
Ja sam altruist jedino ako sam i sebičan.
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Altruizam ne može nikako biti suprotnost sebičnosti. Ništa ne može biti suprotnost sebičnosti jer odnos kreće od sebe prema ono što nisam ja i zatim opet završava u meni. Bolje rečeno, nikad ne izlaziš iz sebe već samo (ne)usklađuješ svoje svjetonazore i iskustva sa drugima. Ako sa drugom stranom ne bi mogla ništa naći zajedničko tada ne bi mogla suosjećati.
Sad bi mogao netko navest primjer altruizma svetice prema nekom zlikovcu. Tu bi se opet radilo o pogrešnom razumijevanju jer kolike god različitosti između ljudi znaju biti, postoje i značajke koje nas čine ljudima i nitko ih nije lišen. Pitanje je samo koliko smo ih sposobni prepoznat kao svoje u određenim situacijama.
Uvijek je samo Ja i odnos sa Ja. Usvojena je nerazumna iluzija o Altruizmu kao momentu transcedencije u drugo biće i onda valjda imaš njegovu perspektivu pa znaš što toj osobi treba!? Sve je to samo jedan trenutak prepoznavanja svojeg iskustva u drugoj osobi.

"Sebičnost" kao negativan oblik ponašanja je trenutna ili trajna nesposobnost prepoznavanja sebe u određenim okolnostima. Nekad zbog nedostatka iskustava sa sobom a nekad zbog namjernog slijepila.
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Pro googlajte i naći čete dokaze da su Čiril i Metod Bili Veliki Masoni... zašto su nam uzeli jezik????



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masoni kazete pa altruizam mozda su i laminati ((": elem sad je vreme da neko pomene i onog naduvanog ajka i reptile (((": pa ondak i ostale karakondjule pa da cirkus bude potpun??
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Kakvi sad masoni, bakraci i kakve veze ima sa temom? Oli sam proglupio i ne kuzim poantu

Btv Ćiril i Metod? Pa masoni nisu bili niti u planu u to vrijeme, nastaju u 17 st. I sto je Veliki Mason uopce? Kako su nam uzeli jezik?
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Ma daj, prodaja maglovitih bajkica. I sami masoni su dovoljno racionalni da ne vjeruju da su takvi mitovi doslovna stvarnost (jer je prelako dokazati da nemaju smisla, a ipak su skloni imati ne bas najvece tupane, kod nas recimo prednjace sveucilisni profesori u clanstvu).

U vrijeme kada su nastali (17.st evropa) i koje stoljece kasnije bilo je jako popularno mitologizirati povijest, razna tajna bratstva, rase i slicno. To je radio sjeti mo se i Hitler kasnije, pa prije njega i teozofi... zaista treba biti prilicno naivan da se danas uz sve raspolozive informacije tkave pseudopovijesne ideje shvate odvec ozbiljno :)
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Najdraže mi je kad mi netko potegne titule kao argument.
Pa ne vidim ništa sporno u tome , masoni ne primaju u svoje redove običan puk tj 'obične 'građane da bi netko bio član masonske lože mora ispuniti određene uslove....


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