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Zadani Mjesec i Venera - Ah, te žene!

Budući da je pitanje koje je Blue Knight postavila zanimljivo, a da se ne začetava tema Šta ste u horoskopu?, uzela sam si slobodu da otvorim novi topic.

"Već kada pričamo o ostalim planetama: znam i da mi je Venera u Škorpijonu, a Mjesec u vodenjaku
ali ne znam kaj to točno znači i na što bi se trebalo odnositi...

A vi? Kud su vam Mjesec i Venera?"




Mjesec i Venera predstavljaju glavne ženske principe u horoskopu, s tim da Mjesec govori na koji način zadovoljavamo (nastojimo zadovoljiti, trebali bismo zadovoljiti...) svoje osnovne životne potrebe, kako skrbimo o sebi i o drugima, kakav tip njege trebamo, što nas najbolje smiruje, kako emocionalno reagiramo... Dakle, majčinsko načelo, u rasponu od doživljaja vlastite majke do toga kakva smo (ćemo biti) majke i općenito, kako brinemo brigu odrugima. I veoma važno - Mjesec vlada nesvjesnim i skrovitim, pa ova strana naše prirode ne mora biti odmah uočljiva drugima (neki puta ni nama...)

Za razliku od Mjeseca, Venera predstavlja onaj naš 'javni' dio - dakle, kako privlačimo pažnju, kako nastojimo ostaviti što bolji dojam na društvenom planu, kako nudimo ljubav, bolje rečeno, što sve činimo kako bismo privukli ljubav u svoj život. Kroz Veneru ćemo pokazivati svoju senzualnu, ljubavničku stranu. Isto tako, kroz Veneru i procjenjujemo kvalitetu svojih društvenih i ljubavnih odnosa.

Ne znam koliko Blue Knight poznaje astrologiju, ali je dobro apostrofirala vezu ova dva planeta i njihov suodnos. Naime, njihovo slaganje / ne slaganje govori o tome koliko uspješno usklađujemo svoje emocionalne potrebe s onim što činimo da bismo bile privlačne. (U horoskopu muškarca je ovo projicirano u žene koje ga privlače i koliko uspješno može ostvariti kvalitetnu vezu). Eh, da, kad već spominjem kvalitetnu vezu, onda u ženskom horoskopu ovaj spoj kvaliteta i elemenata govori koliko će žena biti u 'kvalitetnoj vezi sama sa sobom'.

Dakle, što se tiče Blue Knight, njezina Venera u Škorpionu predstavlja strastvene želje, potrebu da se predaje ljubavi do kraja (umrijeti ako treba ;) ), čak određenu dozu ljubomore, posesivnosti i potrebu da se kontrolira ljubavni odnos; tip žene koja može čak biti (ili igrati na kartu) femme fatale. S druge strane, njezin Mjesec u Vodenjaku, tako društven, tako susretljiv, tako zabavan i zanimljiv, malčicu se ukoči kada treba ostvariti duboki emocionalni odnos s jednom osobom. Žena s Mjesecom u Vodenjaku čak može imati i ponešto problema s fizičkim kontaktima. Dakle, imamo određen sukob izemđu onoga kako se Blue Knight prikazuje i kako privlači, što vrednuje, te onoga što nju, zapravo, istinski emocionalno ispunjava i zadovoljava.

Ovaj kvadrat između ova dva planeta upućuje na to da Blue može puno energije trošiti na svoje odnose i biti čak veoma privlačna u svom nastupu, ali da će za svoje emocionalno ispunjenje trebati uvažiti potrebe Mjeseca.

Naravno, da bi analiza bila kvalitetna, treba prilikom analize uzeti u obzir i aspekte s ostalim planetima, položaj ovih planeta u karti, kao i puno drugih stvari koje će donkele modificirati ove osnovne postavke.



I da, moj Mjesec je u Raku, a Venera u Lavu.
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Nema na čemu. Baš me bilo krenulo. I sama sam se iznenadila. Bit će da mi je ovo bio post toka svijesti.


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Jedino što sam šarmer, homme fatale.
Oh!

Da znam dobro engleski (a ne znam ) shvatila bih iz tvog nicka da si 'dečko' . Ili da ti je nick Der Blaue Reiter... ah, što ću jadna ja, neuka... .

A što se tiče Mjeseca i Venere, ako su to njihove pozicije u tvom horoskopu, onda te vjerojatno privlači tip žena osobina koje sam gore navela. Naime, muškarci osobine svog Mjeseca i Venere najčešće projiciraju u važne im žene s kojima dolaze u kontakt. S jednim dodatkom. Može postojati sukob između onoga što muškarca privlači, s onim što bi rado imao 'za po doma'. Jasnije rečeno, određen tip žene ga može jako privlačiti u smislu ljubavnice, ali kada počnu zajedno živjeti, ona gubi tu privlačnost u njegovim očima. Ili obratno, žena s kojom je jako zadovoljan u smislu zajedničkog života, nekako gubi na privlačnosti. Malo zeznut aspekt i s njim se (ako se) čovjek donekle počne nositi tek sa zrelošću i shvaćanjem da od svojih žena baš ne može očekivati 2 u 1, pa onda odluči što mu je važnije (iako bi trebalo slušati svoj Mjesec, jer je njegovo djelovanje moćnije).
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Moj je mjesec u Strijelcu ,a Venera u Ovnu....koja kombinacija neznam đe goni...
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Helooo Mesec mi je u blizancima,a venera u biku .ali sam neverni toma po pitanju astrrologije eheheee
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Haj!

Odoh prošetat' Lunu, pa kada se vratim laćam se tipkovnice

Nadam se da mi astrološke muze neće večeras poć' rano leć'
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A joooooj! Kud ste navalili!!!

Ja se malčicu raspisala Blue Knightu, a oni odmah stali u red.

A niš'. Idem onda redom. Večeras sanja.



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..."ne znam đe goni"... hahaha, ova ti je dobra

Budući da sam zapamtila da je Sanja Riba s podznakom u Raku (što ću, profesionalna deformacija ), sjetila sam se nekoliko sličnih slučajeva gdje imateljice ove kombinacije često nisu bile svjesne ovog svog vatrenog potencijala. No, kao što sam već prije rekla, cijela karta + OSOBA PREKO PUTA ASTROLOGA = kvalitetno tumačenje planetarnih pozicija. Ovako stvari mogu biti 'iščupane iz konteksta'. No, kada sam se već uvalila u tumačenje, hrabro plivam dalje.


Kao što rekoh, ovo je veoma topla kombinacija, ponekad čak i pretopla za one koji s izražavanjem emocija nisu na ti. Mjesec u Strijelcu je veoma radoznao i jako neposredan u dijeljenju emocija i opažanja, što ne mora biti loše sve dok nekoga ne 'očepi' svojom iskrenošću. S Venerom u Ovnu, osoba ne bi trebala imati problema pokazati svoje emocije; dapače, nekada to možda čini čak prebrzo i predirektno. No, puno češće se događa, da zbog svoje neposrednosti, osoba ima problema s krivom interpretacijom njezinoga ponašanja. Naime, Vatra kao element nije nimalo škrta, pa će velikodušno dijeliti naklonost, što osobe suprotnog spola često mogu krivo protumačiti. Zato se ne mora čuditi ako joj muškarci počnu nuditi nešto više, a ona je iskreno mislila samo na prijateljstvo ili čak uopće nije ništa mislila.

Ono što je važno za ovu kombinaciju je to da osoba shvati da može biti 'prevruća' i predirektna za suptilnije tipove, o bilo kojoj vrsti odnosa da se radi. No, reći joj da stane na loptu je, isto tako, bespredmetno, budući da Vatra najčešće prvo djeluje, a onda razmišlja.

Iako su osobe Riba-Rak veoma emotivno privržene, i čak prema van mogu ostavljati onaj nježno bespomoćno dražesni dojam, Kada je Mjesec u Strijelcu, potreba za slobodnim kretanjem i prostranstvnom je izuzetno izražena i taj prostor autonomije si osoba mora osigurati da bi si punila baterije i emotivno dobro funkcionirala. No, s druge strane, ponekad može prijeći granice i stvarno doći u situaciju da ne zna đe je goni ova pozicija, odnosno, unutarnji nemir. Ostatak karte bi trebao reći nešto više o ovome.

Svakako stoji da je veoma inspirativna i samomotivirajuća. Kada se za nešto ili nekoga 'zapali', onda je spremna puno toga pokrenuti. No, isto tako, kada splasne žar i vatra se ugasi, teško da će imati strpljenja čekati bolje dane na emotivnom planu. Čak i ako ništa ni ne poduzme, barem će drugu stranu iskreno obavijestiti kako stvari stoje.

Ono što joj je važno za zapamtiti, je to da na neki način mora voditi računa da je up - down emotivne oscilacije ne premore. Naime, ova Vatra (Mjesec/Venera) i Voda (Sunce,Ascendent) kombinacija voli ići u emocionalne ekstreme, što može biti jako zanimljivo na 'daskama koje život znače', ali je u svakodnevnom životu jako zamorno i može dovesti do emocionalnog izgaranja.
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