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Nepročitano 05-01-14, 08:00   #41
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Dakle uz nasledni faktor većinu autoimunih bolesti uzrokuje i preterano korištenje antibiotika i antheminitika(lekovi protiv crevnih i dr parazita) -u jednoj studiji je dokazano da je iminološki odgovor u ekceme pokrenut istim mehanizmom kojim se telo brani od crevnih parazita!
Možda smo preuzeli ulogu koju je naš imunitet imao u toj meri da smo ga ostavili 'besposlenog' tj. opasnog .... s toga treba koristiti takve lekove(antibiotike i slično) samo u krajnjoj nuždi i za stvari za koje su namenjeni ....


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To ne znači da treba imati parazite(mada Pfizer namerava početi prodavati jajašca dečije gliste do 2017 mislim s obzirom da smanjuje simptome prvenstveno psoriaze)


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To ne znači da treba imati parazite(mada Pfizer namerava početi prodavati jajašca dečije gliste do 2017 mislim s obzirom da smanjuje simptome prvenstveno psoriaze)
Ovo mi je izuzetno zanimljiva tematika - hvala.

Ipak, treba infestaciju parazitima držati pod kontrolom jer se od nje može i umrijeti, npr. životinje, posebno mlade umiru od jakih infestacija jer ih gliste doslovno pojedu iznutra i sprečavaju apsorpciju hranjivih sastojaka (s obzirom da one sve "pojedu"), pa tako i smanjuju imunitet.

Nema li Pfizer možda neku drugu agendu?


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To ne znači da treba imati parazite(mada Pfizer namerava početi prodavati jajašca dečije gliste do 2017 mislim s obzirom da smanjuje simptome prvenstveno psoriaze)
Nekada su prodavali jajašca trakavice za mršavljenje stoga niš' nije čudno


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Ovo mi je izuzetno zanimljiva tematika - hvala.

Ipak, treba infestaciju parazitima držati pod kontrolom jer se od nje može i umrijeti, npr. životinje, posebno mlade umiru od jakih infestacija jer ih gliste doslovno pojedu iznutra i sprečavaju apsorpciju hranjivih sastojaka (s obzirom da one sve "pojedu"), pa tako i smanjuju imunitet.

Nema li Pfizer možda neku drugu agendu?
Nemaju li oni svi skrivenu agendu no u americi su se nakon što su neka istraživanja u vezi ovoga o čemu sam pisao pacijenti počeli samozaražavati sa glistama -ne to je još neprovereno i nitko ne bi trebao ...
OVO je bolesno http://www.ordinacija.hr/novosti/naj...kavica-dijeta/


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Popravite crijeva ( probiotici, prebiotici, juhe od kostiju, hidrokolon, kisik i ozon ako je nužno, sokovi od voća i povrća, elektroliti itd) zatim odnose sa svijetom i ljudima- da bi to mogli prvo treba sa sobom biti na čisto i u harmoniji.

Pratite rezultate (okvirno) na biorezonanci.
Ili je jednostavnije napisati; nemojte se sekrati jer sekirancija nosi 'flair up' a flair up nije zabavan -kao netko ko'ih ima mogu i napisati...
Cistična Fibroza sada čini se ima svetliju budućnost za one vrlo dubokog dzepa a genska terapija Cist. fibroze je mozda realnija mada previše odugovlačena, zapravo također i gen. terapija raka...
Za CF ispravan DNA umotan u stanice lipida može biti prva crta odbrane...
Flair up za autoimune bolesti ili mutacije gena (svaku noć se dešava metilacija sada mirno spavajte jer metilacija može biti mutacija od stresa -kao kod mene sa 28 zove se Atopijski dermatitis ili ekcem i ....pakao je na zemlji -nije zabavan, mada mutacija je i rak, psorijaza bolesti mozga...)
Dakle bez flozofiranja stres potiče autoimunosti i mutacije zato nemojte se 'stresati':)


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Da stavim i ovdje kopirat cu sto sam napisao na jednoj drugoj temi.

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Ne znam da li sam negdje vec spomenuo ili pisao o tome, uglavnom mislim da svatko tko ima nekakvu tezu bolest, a ne samo autoimunu bolest bi trebao prouciti i ciscenje jetre i rad doktora Cicera Coimbre i njegova lijecenja i istrazivanja s vitaminom D i utjecaja na tijelo.

Stavit cu neke linkove na informacije o vitaminu D i ljudima koji su se vec lijecili ili trenutno to isprobavaju:
https://www.coimbraprotocol.com/the-protocol-1
https://www.facebook.com/coimbraprotocol
https://www.facebook.com/groups/vita...ica/?ref=br_rs
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...XSrIIjUVBrvxBQ

Ima sad i drugih vec hrpa foruma po netu koji se bave istom temom cak i da samo ukucate "coimbra protocol forum" u trazilice.



A ovo je poveznica na objasnjenje jednog "novog" otkrica u medicini starog mozda tek 5god koja mislim dobro pokazuje koliko moderna medicina zaostaje u shvacanju mnogih stvari oko nastanka i lijecenja bolesti:
https://wemustknow.wordpress.com/201...the-textbooks/
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-...in-immune.html

Ne kazem da mozda ne postoje druge metode lijecenja ali ova poveznica s vitaminom D tj. velikim utjecajem sunceve svjetlosti na covjeka i zdravlje nije nesto sto mozemo ignorirati.

A ovo su linkovi o utjecaju soli na tijelo koje sam bio stavljao i na temi za akne.
Zasto?
Ovo je google prijevod pa se ispricavam ako ima gresaka:

"Kad je Zielinkskov tim izložio naivne Th stanice u petrijevoj posudi velikim dozama natrija, stanice snažno idu prema Th2 odgovoru. To je važno jer su Th2 odgovori "bili primarno upleteni u alergijske bolesti, poput astme i atopijskog dermatitisa", rekao je Kolls.

Ali sol se tu ne zaustavlja - nastavlja pojačavati upalne reakcije i nakon što Th2 stanice sazriju. To može objasniti zašto su istraživači otkrili mrlje na koži s velikom količinom soli te su odgovarali ekcemima. Biopsije ekcemijskih lezija sadržavale su 30 puta veću količinu soli u odnosu na tkivo kože uklonjene zdravim osobama.

U manjoj mjeri, dio naivnih T-helper stanica također je skrenuo prema Th17 - povećavajući spektar studije sa sveučilišta Yale objavljene prije šest godina o soli i još jednoj autoimunoj bolesti: multipla skleroza. Ta je studija otkrila da su miševi koji su bili na dijeti sa visokom količinom soli razvili jače upale mozga u modelu multiple skleroze. Preveliki Th17 odgovor također se odnosi na psorijazu, još jednu autoimunu bolest."

https://www.science20.com/entropy_an...ciences-120016
https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h4962/rr-5
https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h4962/rr-45
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science...WEmhTI0XdT087c
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