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Nepročitano 11-12-12, 14:43   #1
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Pošto sam ispamirao (ne namerno temu o super biljci NEEM) otvaram novu temu gde neću da se bavim kožnim bolestima jer po meni većina bolesti koje se smatraju kožnima počinju od auto imunog sistema ...dakle naletio sam na priču o jednom drvetu srednjeg rasta za kojega sam znao doduše ali u kontekstu bio-dizela ,to je Pongamia Pinnata ili Millettia Pinata ili Pongamia glabra ? ...to je drvo koje sudeći prema nekim akademskim člancima evo prevešću laički maleni dio 'Skoro sve autoimune bolesti su uzrokovane autoreaktivnim Th-1 CD4 ćelijama i p pinnata terapija može biti korisna takvim pacijentima u adiciji p. pinnata također bi stimulirao anti tijelima (antibody-mediated imunity ) otpornost na anti tijela '
to je mali dio pdf dokumenta iz academicjurnals.org
Bitno je napomenuti da je prošle godine P pinnata već obijavljena kao lek za psorijazu nađen u Indiji ali još uvek se čeka papirologija (naime koriste koru drveta )http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...cturing-trials Dr Kar naime čeka da dobije autorsko pravo na ovaj lek Klinička ispitivanja su obavljena na 100 ljudi sa 90% uspeha s tim da ostalih 10 posto je koristilo taj lek još 3-4 m do razrešenja simptoma...(bez re-bound efekta nakon prestanka uzimanja tj pogoršavanja simptoma)također piše da je studija napravljena dalje na 1000 pac i dr koji vodi istraživanje je poslao patent WHO (Svetska Zdravstvena Organizacija ) i čeka da mu se prizna patent ,sada je već vreme da to učine jer 1 god je prošla ...
Ps sorry što sam autoimune napisao razdvojeno ...

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Dakle koliko sam skužio KORA drveta se pokazala efikasnom ,stotinama godina ovo drvo je korišteno protiv parazita ,infekcija ,granuloma i upala općenito
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Pošto sam ispamirao (ne namerno temu o super biljci NEEM) otvaram novu temu gde neću da se bavim kožnim bolestima jer po meni većina bolesti koje se smatraju kožnima počinju od auto imunog sistema ...dakle naletio sam na priču o jednom drvetu srednjeg rasta za kojega sam znao doduše ali u kontekstu bio-dizela ,to je Pongamia Pinnata ili Millettia Pinata ili Pongamia glabra ? ...to je drvo koje sudeći prema nekim akademskim člancima evo prevešću laički maleni dio 'Skoro sve autoimune bolesti su uzrokovane autoreaktivnim Th-1 CD4 ćelijama i p pinnata terapija može biti korisna takvim pacijentima u adiciji p. pinnata također bi stimulirao anti tijelima (antibody-mediated imunity ) otpornost na anti tijela '
to je mali dio pdf dokumenta iz academicjurnals.org
Bitno je napomenuti da je prošle godine P pinnata već obijavljena kao lek za psorijazu nađen u Indiji ali još uvek se čeka papirologija (naime koriste koru drveta )http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...cturing-trials Dr Kar naime čeka da dobije autorsko pravo na ovaj lek Klinička ispitivanja su obavljena na 100 ljudi sa 90% uspeha s tim da ostalih 10 posto je koristilo taj lek još 3-4 m do razrešenja simptoma...(bez re-bound efekta nakon prestanka uzimanja tj pogoršavanja simptoma)također piše da je studija napravljena dalje na 1000 pac i dr koji vodi istraživanje je poslao patent WHO (Svetska Zdravstvena Organizacija ) i čeka da mu se prizna patent ,sada je već vreme da to učine jer 1 god je prošla ...
http://www.academicjournals.org/ijpp...%20et%20al.pdf
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http://lib.bioinfo.pl/auid:4662690 biflavonyloxymethan iz kore korena P.pinnate je izdvojen i sa ostalim navedenim spojevima koje p pinnata sadrži citiram 'to bi mogao biti ključ za izlečenje psorijaze ' http://www.abstractboard.com/author/...Manoj-Kar.html također i dijabetesa melitusa http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3059439/
Ps može li se naslov spojiti mislim ispada kako sam napisao da je jedno auto a drugo imune ...stvarno trebalo bi pisati Autoimune bolesti ....nema veze nada postoji da jednoga dana ni ciclosporine neće više trabati ,to je bitno
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Našao sam točan prevod i glasio bi Indijska bukva (indian beech tree )
http://herbs-treatandtaste.blogspot....eech-tree.html pognamia pinnata ili millettia pinnata
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Deo koji ću sada napisati spada u moje promatranje i kao takav se može uzeti samo kao smernica a nikako kao činjenica

Thunder God Vine (Trypterigyum Wilfordii) dio tradicionalne kineske medicine izaziva kontradikcije u mnogim člancima koje sam pročitao ,naime ova biljka je po nekima snažan imunosuspresant i postoje dokazi da uništava tumore (u fazi ispitivanja ) barem kod miševa za sada http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-in-mice.html međutim ukoliko ekstrakt nije dobro spravljen od korena biljke,taj ekstrakt može biti izuzetno toksičan ...koliko znam nije dostupan kod nas i ima jake nuspojave (slične BIOLOGICS lekovima za psoriazu s time da je moguće da izaziva mušku neplodnost, međutim uglavnom se koristi lokalno za reumatoidni artritis ...)
Biljka Trypterigyum OBEĆAVA tj postoje naznake da lječi RAK zato ako netko ima još informacija ili me želi ispraviti ,molim da to i učini !
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http://www.genengnews.com/gen-news-h...ncer/81247498/ Minnelide iz ove biljke bi mogao ...kažem kako piše ne samo izlečiti rak pankreasa nego i druge vrste raka i koren pokusi na ljudima prema nekim izvorima počinju 2013
Inače interesantni prevodi imena ove biljke su 'Vino boga groma' i 'Sedam koraka do smrti ' inače većina današnjih lekova je dobijena iz otrovnih supstanci budući su one puno složenije ...
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http://jaxmice.jax.org/news/2012/Minnelide.html http://www.healthline.com/health-blo...rs-mice-101712 http://www.beautifulcancerpatient.co...er-in-40-days/
Eto dobra vest za svakoga !Makar naučnici nešto rade ....konačno ,do sada su se samo fiksali kofeinom ;) !
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Ovo su dakle moja zapažanja u kojima ne tvrdim ni da sam u pravu ,a ni da sam u krivu -nikako nisu smernice prema kojima bi netko menjao postojeću terapiju !Evo još nekih vesti u vezi lečenja psoriaze http://health.usnews.com/health-news...eatment?page=2 Da naučnici koji su tvrdili da IL-17 izaziva psoriazu su bili u pravu ,sada se traži inhibitor toga hormona(čitam dva eksprimentalna leka već postoje) Ta bi terapija bila učinkovitija i sigurnija od sadašnjih BIOLOGICS lekova upravo zato što bi ciljala samo jedan deo imunološkog sistema A NE GASILA GA -pa dovraga ko' bi uopšte želio ostati bez imuniteta
IL-17 još se zove i interleukin 17
Ovo bi moglo biti natjecanje ko će pre staviti lek na tržište ,pogotovo što IL-17 suspresor već postoji koliko ja znam i zove se Fenofibrate?(fenofibrilate se nebi trebao uzimati ukoliko to lječnik ne dozvoli a sve su šanse da neće ,koliko sam upoznat daje se za snižavanje HDL holesterola ali nisam siguran )
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Ovo su dakle moja zapažanja u kojima ne tvrdim ni da sam u pravu a,a ni da sam u krivu -nikako nisu smernice prema kojima bi netko menjao postojeću terapiju !Evo još nekih vesti u vezi lečenja psoriaze http://health.usnews.com/health-news...eatment?page=2 Da naučnici koji su tvrdili da IL-17 izaziva psoriazu su bili u pravu ,sada se traži inhibitor toga hormona(čitam dva eksprimentalna leka već postoje) Ta bi terapija bila učinkovitija i sigurnija od sadašnjih BIOLOGICS lekova upravo zato što bi ciljala samo jedan deo imunološkog sistema A NE GASILA GA -pa dovraga ko' bi uopšte želio ostati bez imuniteta
IL-17 još se zove i interleukin 17
Ovo bi moglo biti natjecanje ko će pre staviti lek na tržište ,pogotovo što IL-17 suspresor već postoji koliko ja znam i zove se Fenofibrate(fenofibrilate se nebi trebao uzimati ukoliko to lječnik ne dozvoli a sve su šanse da neće ,koliko sam upoznat daje se za snižavanje HDL holesterola ali nisam siguran )
Evo nešto zanimljivo ,nije mi se dalo čitati do kraja ali CURCUMIN je inhibitor (čini mi se po ovome članku IL-17 http://biomedres.info/yahoo_site_adm....198195400.pdf
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