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Nepročitano 08-08-13, 20:59   #101
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Postoji stranica www.mekkitorabi.com i na njoj je mail adresa na koju možeš poslat pitanje no tu je također i svima poznat broj moba gdina Asada pa preko njega možeš doći do svojih odgovora 098 315215
Gdje je nestao taj Mekki Torabi, malo googlam ali sve stare stvari, sve na našem jeziku, nema ništa iz 2011, 2012, 2013.. ??


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A prevarant sa kratkorocnom politikom, puno buke, digo love, kad su se pocele javljati pizdarije zbrise negdje drugdje i tako :D


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A prevarant sa kratkorocnom politikom, puno buke, digo love, kad su se pocele javljati pizdarije zbrise negdje drugdje i tako :D
A to argumentiraš točno čime...?

Jesi li čitao malo osobna svjedočanstva na ovoj temi?

Znaš li da čovjek radi besplatno?


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Nepročitano 09-08-13, 11:25   #104
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RH je imala izuzetno dobru organizaciju (dvorana, discipliniranost posjetiteljâ), a voda i ulaznice se nisu naplaćivale.
U nekim drugim zemljama Torabi je, u kongregaciji s lokalnim tajkunom, napravio biznis: od naplaćivanja ulaznice do naplaćivanja vode.
Ne dvojim da su se dešavala i iscjeljenja, ali trenutak placeba uopće ne treba izostaviti.
Gdje god je masovna posjećenost i instantno ozdravljenje, svojim komentarom treba biti uključena policija, a ne javne kokete.
Njegovo viđenje niskih zelenih vanzemaljaca, koji imaju krljušti i izbočine na koži, također mi nije simpatično, pogotovo jer oni prenose njemu pouku kakav bi budući svijet trebao biti.
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RH je imala izuzetno dobru organizaciju (dvorana, discipliniranost posjetiteljâ), a voda i ulaznice se nisu naplaćivale.
U nekim drugim zemljama Torabi je, u kongregaciji s lokalnim tajkunom, napravio biznis: od naplaćivanja ulaznice do naplaćivanja vode.
Zaboga, naplaćivao je ulaznice?!!! I vodu???? Ma ne valjda! Za razliku od ... štajaznam, svih drugih manifestacija od koncerata do predavanja, izložbi i sl. gdje je sve ... besplatno? Ludilo, brale! Stvarno neki mutan tip.

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Gdje god je masovna posjećenost i instantno ozdravljenje, svojim komentarom treba biti uključena policija, a ne javne kokete.
Jašta - ne samo policija, nego i vojska - možda i tenkovi - nikad se ne zna. Takvi tipovi su prilično opasni.


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A to argumentiraš točno čime...?

Jesi li čitao malo osobna svjedočanstva na ovoj temi?

Znaš li da čovjek radi besplatno?
Ima dosta i obratnih svjedocanstava, pa cak i umrlih ljudi koji su prethodno "svjedocili o ozdravljenjima"; ako me sjecanje sluzi. Tipicno za placebo efekte masovnih opijenosti raznoraznim mangupima. Iste stvari sa karzimaticima. Ljudi se raspisu po novinama kako ih izljecio, a vidjas ih za vrlo kratko vrijeme po gradu u istom sranju kao i prije.

Besplatno? Nije li se pricalo kako je imao posebne seanse za "tajkune"? Takodjer kad se stvor dovoljno reklame ljudi ce trcat za njime posvuda i van tih organiziranih stvari. A i da nije zaradjivao i stvarno vjerovao nije bitno. Vjeruju i svi ti karizmatici od kojih su mnogi i redovnici pa i ne mogu zaradjivat, ne znaci da ne prodaju zjake.


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Pa ima svakakvih svjedočanstava i u alopatskoj medicini - čak štoviše, kad bi se radila statistika, mislim da ne bi dobro prošli i da bi pretegla vaga na "mrtav" ili "još bolesniji" ... pa svejedno nitko ne zove policiju upomoć.

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Pa ima svakakvih svjedočanstava i u alopatskoj medicini - čak štoviše, kad bi se radila statistika, mislim da ne bi dobro prošli i da bi pretegla vaga na "mrtav" ili "još bolesniji" ... pa svejedno nitko ne zove policiju upomoć.

Smiješno, kako se iz buhe radi slon.
Naravno da ima, ali se niti ne skrivaju, postoje istrazivanja, jasni postoci i stoga jasne statisticke sanse, ne bazira se na prznim pricama. Naravno tu su u prednosti muljatori koji mogu napuhavati placebo efekt sto lijecnici ne smiju raditi, a on nekada zaista bitno doprinosi.

Dobro bi prosli, po svemu sto sam vidio u toliko godina alternativiranja od teske sklonosti alternativi i otporu prema "establismentu" stvari su se cisto na osnovu vidjenog okrenule u suprotnom pravcu. Medicina je u prosjeku daleko uspjesnija i pri tome manje prodaje maglu. NIje naravno crno bijelo i svacega ima svugdje, ali magle definitivno vise medju alternativcima.


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svakome se moze dati samo onoliko koliko moze ponijeti..

neki ne mogu ponijeti nista.. jer su im ruke vec krcate svega..

stoga ce i njihovo iskustvo izmjene biti siromasno i nistavno.. i biti ce u punom pravu kada kazu da su dobili nista.. kao sto bi se i iz trgovine vratili sa nicim novime odu li tamo punih ruku.. odbijajuci ispustiti ono sto vec nose sa sobom..

iscijeljenje se najcesce ne desava dodavanjem neceg novoga.. vec dopustenim gubitkom.. otpustanjem starog.. bolnog..
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Svaki put se nasmijem na ovo posprdno spominjanje placeba ... pa ako placebo djeluje i ima stvarni učinak, što to pokazuje? I što je u tom slučaju to što se naziva placebom? Jer, iz ničega ne može nastati nešto. Ništa ne može potaknuti nešto. Ako je ništa, kako može izazvati bilo kakvu reakciju ili proces? Prema kojem zakonu fizike? To bi barem trebalo biti svima jasno i logično, neovisno o provenijenciji.

Uostalom što pokazuje sve to? Da čovjek jedino trajno i stvarno može sam sebe iscijeliti - ni alternativac ni liječnik nisu svemogući niti mogu učiniti nešto mimo naše volje (i/ili volje Boga). I to je jedina istina.


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