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Mnoge (ako ne i sve) metode i tehnike manipulranja bioenergijom, kao načinom iscjeljivanja, u svojoj bazi imaju Boga.
U učenju istih (knjige, tečajevi te ostalo) se navodi kako se mora moliti, povezati s Bogom ... i sve ostalo da sada ne nabrajam.

No što ako je netko ateist?
Netko kome je takav postupak neprirodan, apstraktan, neprihvatljiv i ne vjeruje u to?
Mislim ... nije se problem pomoliti i mehanički izgovoriti tih par rečenica, no svjesno zna da podsvjesno to negira i zna da to izgovara samo zato da se "odradi" taj dio pa da se krene sa konkretnim radom.

Znači li to da se takav čovjek ne može baviti bioenergijom ili ...?


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Ne moraš se moliti Bogu ako u njega ne vjeruješ - (bio)energija djeluje bez obzira na naša uvjerenja o svevišnjem. U tom slučaju obraćamo se univerzumu, prirodnim silama, prapočelu, univerzalnoj energiji i sl.

No, kako radimo i kako se osvješćujemo, kako napredujemo, tako spontano dolazimo do sve dubljih uvida koji nas naposljetku odvedu i do spoznaje Boga.

Naposljetku, Bog za svakoga predstavlja nešto drugo. Nema jedinstvene definicije Boga.


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Ne moraš se moliti Bogu ako u njega ne vjeruješ - (bio)energija djeluje bez obzira na naša uvjerenja o svevišnjem. U tom slučaju obraćamo se univerzumu, prirodnim silama, prapočelu, univerzalnoj energiji i sl.

No, kako radimo i kako se osvješćujemo, kako napredujemo, tako spontano dolazimo do sve dubljih uvida koji nas naposljetku odvedu i do spoznaje Boga.

Naposljetku, Bog za svakoga predstavlja nešto drugo. Nema jedinstvene definicije Boga.


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Neke tehnike prakticiraju molitvu ili zamolbu prije tretmana a neke ne, tako da po mome misljenju jedino u toj cijeloj prici je vazno biti u medijalnom stanju. Ja licno ne prakticiram nikakvu molitvu prije tretmana,nego se sam dovedem u takvo stanje kad sam blizu pacijenta.
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Nije šija nego vrat.


Zanimalo me jedino iz razloga što poneki terapeuti kažu kako i osoba na kojoj se radi tretman mora moliti Bogu jednako kao i terapeut.
To mi je bila zbunjujuća razlika.
Razlika učinka tretmana kod terapeuta vjernika i ateiste kao i klijenta vjernika i ateiste.
Upravo iz razloga jer se točno navodi kako se moraju "zazivati" i Bog i Isus.

Ne bih ulazio u doblju polemiku oko stvaranja i postojanja kao niti o uvjerenju i vjerovanjima, no nije svačiji mozak isto "programiran".

Primjerice:
korak 1. moliti Boga i Isusa prije tretmana.
korak 2. uraditi tretman tako i tako.
korak 3. zahvaliti Bogu i Isusu na svemu.

Nekome su koraci 1 i 3 apsolutno apsurdni pa to preskače i odmah prelazi na korak 2, odradi to i doviđenja.
Netko će čisto iz poštivanja "pravila" tehničko-mehanički odraditi sva 3 koraka, dok će vijernik zdušno odraditi sva 3 koraka.

Pa me upravo zanimala ta "obveza" i redoslijed.

Znači po tvome NIJE potrebno/obvezno učiniti korak 1 i 3. nego odraditi tretman i basta.


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Tako je,nije potrebno. Vazno je to medijalno stanje u kojemu si ti cijelo vrijeme svijesni promatrac, ako je nekome od pomoci da lakse udje u to stanje obracajuci se nekoj visoj sili i to je ok.
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Neke tehnike prakticiraju molitvu ili zamolbu prije tretmana a neke ne,
Koje? (u oba slučaja).
Imaš kakav konkretan primjer?
Čisto radi usporedbe.


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Primjerice:
korak 1. moliti Boga i Isusa prije tretmana.
korak 2. uraditi tretman tako i tako.
korak 3. zahvaliti Bogu i Isusu na svemu.
... a neki će se korak 1. zamijeniti korakom 3.


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Nije šija nego vrat.

Zanimalo me jedino iz razloga što poneki terapeuti kažu kako i osoba na kojoj se radi tretman mora moliti Bogu jednako kao i terapeut.
To mi je bila zbunjujuća razlika.
Razlika učinka tretmana kod terapeuta vjernika i ateiste kao i klijenta vjernika i ateiste.
Upravo iz razloga jer se točno navodi kako se moraju "zazivati" i Bog i Isus.

Ne bih ulazio u doblju polemiku oko stvaranja i postojanja kao niti o uvjerenju i vjerovanjima, no nije svačiji mozak isto "programiran".

Primjerice:
korak 1. moliti Boga i Isusa prije tretmana.
korak 2. uraditi tretman tako i tako.
korak 3. zahvaliti Bogu i Isusu na svemu.

Nekome su koraci 1 i 3 apsolutno apsurdni pa to preskače i odmah prelazi na korak 2, odradi to i doviđenja.
Netko će čisto iz poštivanja "pravila" tehničko-mehanički odraditi sva 3 koraka, dok će vijernik zdušno odraditi sva 3 koraka.

Pa me upravo zanimala ta "obveza" i redoslijed.

Znači po tvome NIJE potrebno/obvezno učiniti korak 1 i 3. nego odraditi tretman i basta.
Ja bih samo dodala da je ovo totalno pojednostavljeno viđenje cijelog procesa, kako god se tehnika zvala.

Tkogod se ozbiljno želi baviti iscjeljivanjem ima pred sobom mnogo, mnogo godina učenja i rada - prvenstveno na samome sebi.

A svatko tko kreće s iscjeljivanjem bi trebao pročitati Lazareva ili makar Ogorevca (i još puno toga) - kako bi mu prije svega bile jasne sve implikacije toga što čini i kako bi stekao šire razumijevanje ali i svjesno prihvatio odgovornost i posljedice.

Naposljetku, smatram da je čovjek sam po sebi potpuno nesposoban kao biće i da mu sva snaga i moć ionako dolaze od Boga te je stoga i zahvalnost potpuno primjerena. Ako ništa drugo, onda već zbog samog stanja u kojem se tijelo i duh nalaze kada su u ravnoteži i stanju prihvaćanja i zahvalnosti. Koga to smeta, možda se ipak ne bi trebao baviti "božanskim" zanimanjem nego nekim, prikladnijim, 'ljudskim'.

Jer, iscjeljivanje nije i ne može biti biznis, niti bi se time trebalo olako i površno baviti.


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