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Nepročitano 06-05-19, 09:11   #11
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To ne bih znala - ali ne vidim kako bi imalo s obzirom da je astma autoimuno stanje pa se kao takvo treba i tretirati.

No, moguće je da olakšava simptome. Treba probati.
ma, danas su sve poceli nazivati autoimunim bolestima samo zato jer nemaju nista pametnije za reci.

kako samo vole te "neizljecive" bolesti, skoro im osmijeh na licu vidis.

"nista se tu ne moze, sad cu ti dozivotno prodavat ovo da uzimas".


Istrazi rad doktora Cicera Coimbre iz Brazila s visokim dozama vitamina D i autoimunim bolestima, pogotovo sto se tice istrazivanja multiple skleroze, potpune remisije. Uzima se oko 1000 IU D3 po kilogramu tezine dnevno i namjesta dalje s obzirom kakvi su nalazi.

No naravno mora se paziti na jos neke stvari pri tako velikim dozama, kolicina kalcija koja se unosi u tijelo itd. No hocu rec koliko boravak na suncu ima veliku ulogu za zdravlje. A ovi ostali idioti i dermatolozi jos promoviraju kreme za suncanje. pa jeb***.

Koliko bi se toga dalo napraviti i zalijeciti da se ima volje i savjesti. Tko zna kakvi su utjecaji na ostale bolesti. Treba nam hrpe pravih istrazivanja.

Drugi doktori mu se moraju svojom voljom sami pridruzivati, oni koji jos imaju savjest, a ovi potplaceni i sluzbene medicinske ustanove mu oduzimaju i opremu i novac za istrazivanja, umjesto da se i sami potrude nesto napraviti samo zajebavaju i otpustaju druge koji i nesto korisno rade, koja gamad.


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Nije ni to baš tako jednostavno. Visoke doze D vitamina se daju ali za olakšavanje simptoma i smanjivanje upale - one ne liječe uzrok. A ni sunce nije dovoljno, jer znam ljude koji su doslovno čitave dane na suncu i ne koriste zaštitu a imaju izuzetno niske razine D vitamina. Nešto je tu drugo u pitanju a ja sumnjam na jetru jer se D vitamin pohranjuje u jetri. Ako jetra ne radi kako treba onda nije u stanju skladištiti D vitamin.


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Nije ni to baš tako jednostavno. Visoke doze D vitamina se daju ali za olakšavanje simptoma i smanjivanje upale - one ne liječe uzrok. A ni sunce nije dovoljno, jer znam ljude koji su doslovno čitave dane na suncu i ne koriste zaštitu a imaju izuzetno niske razine D vitamina. Nešto je tu drugo u pitanju a ja sumnjam na jetru jer se D vitamin pohranjuje u jetri. Ako jetra ne radi kako treba onda nije u stanju skladištiti D vitamin.

naravno da nije, to je gruba pomoc. moraju u tijelu postojati i druge stvari osim vitamina D. svakako moraju i organi funkcionirati, apsorpcija postojati itd. takoder nije svejedno sto jedu.

al za one koji imaju rezultat je rezultat. bolne kozne bolesti, bolovi po tijelu, nepokretnost, odumiranje zivaca itd itd nije mala stvar za te silne ljude kad se to preokrene na donekle normalnu funkciju.

naravno da se treba dalje istraziti i naci bolji nacin, al svakako na nesto ukazuje, negdje mora poceti. stvar je da vecinom volja ne postoji u medicinskoj zajednici, nego vecinom opstruiranje pravih istrazivanja i zelja za novcem.

a naravno da su i politicari krivi jer ne zele financirati nista a i ljudi jer o tome nemaju nikakvu svijest dok im se nesto ne dogodi.
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Vidim da neki, valjda oni pametniji, već pomalo popuštaju pa gledaju i D vitamin i propisuju ga, ali uglavnom ne znaju dozirati - sve su to premale količine.

Za ostalo, sve jasno. Moje mišljenje o trenutnom stanju u medicini je i vrapcima poznato.


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avtoimune bolesti izmislila je farmacija skoro za sve ono, za koje nema ljekova.....Ljudi sami sebi donosimo sve bolesti. Trebamo paziti koje informacije donosimo svom mozgu. Naš mozak ne proverava tih informacija, dakle nema veze dali su te informacije istinite ili lažne....kao što ja npr. u svoj komjuter napišem da sam budala- moj okmjuter tu informaciju ne provjeri kad kliknem na SAVE...tako i mozak radi
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Slažem se u svemu osim nepostojanju autoimunih bolesti. One doista postoje a karakterizira ih sve nefunkcionalnost našeg imunosustava. I to je neporeciva činjenica, samo je pitanje na koju će stranu, koji organ ili sustav udariti.

To ne treba brkati s činjenicom da suvremena medicina nema pojma što s tim učiniti niti kako tretirati ili liječiti.


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Sve bolesti (osim ako se otruješ kemikalijama, hranom, ako imaš nezgodu-slomiš nogu...) čovjek si sam nameče- svojim mislima.
Nema avtoimunih to je farmacija izmislila.
Sve je sasvim jednostavno samo ne pogledamo malo šire.....svaka bolest je BIOLOŠKI PROCES našeg tjela.
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Oštra, jasno mi je što želiš istaknuti ali nisi razumjela što ja kažem: bolesti se formalno mogu grupirati po vrstama pa tako postoji grupa autoimunih bolesti koje karakterizira nefunkcionalnost imunološkog sustava. Porijeklo hašimota, bubrežne insuficijencije, raka ili ciroze jetre NISU iste. To nema veze s time jesu li bolesti samonametnute ili nisu, nego s njihovom definicijom.

Jednako kao što postoje karcinomi - nećemo negirati njihovo postojanje, zar ne? Bez obzira na njihovu etiologiju i patogenezu.

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Farmacija nije izmislila nikakve bolesti - ona ih je samo klasificirala prema patogenezi. Nemojmo brkati pojmove.


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