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Nepročitano 24-09-19, 13:43   #76351
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Jedini smisao je da na kraju ništa nema smisla..
baš sam i ja na kavi u mirnom trenutku.
često sam se znao uhvatiti u takvoj vrsti razmišljanja. Sad vidim da je to samo jedan od beskraj načina razmišljanja. Sad sam više sklon intuiciji koja mi govori da naravno da ima “smisla” samo što um zbog svoje prirode i ograničenja ne može obuhvatiti taj pojam smisao kojeg je na kraju krajeva on sam konceptualno osmislio.
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Vidiš um osmislio ali ne može da shvati sam pojam "smisao",zato
što je to apstraktno a um je racionalan,pa stalno pokušava logikom
da analizira nešto što je nevidljivo oku i neopipljivo..
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Vidiš um osmislio ali ne može da shvati sam pojam "smisao",zato
što je to apstraktno a um je racionalan,pa stalno pokušava logikom
da analizira nešto što je nevidljivo oku i neopipljivo..
Baš to. Drugim riječima um je potpuno pogrešan alat za nešto onkraj misaone konstrukcije iz koje i on sam izvire.
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Baš to. Drugim riječima um je potpuno pogrešan alat za nešto onkraj misaone konstrukcije iz koje i on sam izvire.
Zato je veoma važno znati da treba uspostaviti ravnotežu između
uma i duha...i u toj ravnoteži balansirati kroz život
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Zato je veoma važno znati da treba uspostaviti ravnotežu između
uma i duha...i u toj ravnoteži balansirati kroz život
Ovo će vjerojatno zvučati čudno i mene samog zanima kamo će me pisanje ovoga dovesti. Ovo nema veze kako netko drugacije vidi stvari u svom životu. I sam živim identificiran u “snenu realnost” koja sasvim očito izgleda kao normalna svakodnevna “igra” živIjenja. I ja radim, zarađujem za kruh, imam razne preokupacije, trenutke osobnog zadovoljstva, stvari koje bi volio razriješiti, ostvariti i tak.. Ali to je za mene sve kao san, priča o sebi koju jasno vidim što u mom slučaju jest pa sav taj privremeni sneni život manje ozbiljno shvaćam, izaziva manje stresa na tijelo i preventira razne anksioznosti u psihi na nepredvidljivost i sve veću brzinu života (u snu :) )
Stvari su mi iz tog spontanog pogleda puno jasnije i jednostavnije. Možda nešto kao lucidno sanjam svoj život. Takav neki dubok filing. Kao vidim se u snu izvan njega. Riječi su tu samo nužna smetnja.

Zato u tom pogledu, iz čega gledam na svoje sebe i život kao na san čak i to zamišljeno trebanje postizati ravnotežu ili balans između raznih aspekta sebe i života, kao i razne metodologije terapija i self help metoda samorazvoja vidim samo kao radnje koje se isto tako događaju u snu. Tako da se meni (tome nešto, nečem što vidi tako) u dubljem smislu sve to čini bezpredmetno ma koliko god se činile očitim i nužno potrebnima. Um je nevjerojatan majstor za stvaranje raznih “realnosti” koje se itekako čine realnima i jedino realnim.

Treba ovo treba ono.. moraš imati ovo i ovo.. postati, postići to jer...
Sve mi to sliči na markentig snenih ljudi pohlepnih na zgrtanje moći, profita i kontrole pod krinkom raznih varijacija buđenja ljudi iz sivih i neželjenih snova.
Ako u tome i uspijevaju opet se ti probuđeni bude u snu sanjajući da su budni.
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Svaka ti čast na ovom opisu. Nije lako riječima opisati ono što spoznaješ.
Znamo da postoje pojavnosti koje nismo u stanju opisati rečima,
jer jednostavno reči ne postoje..znači u ovom oskudnom rečniku
kojim se služimo,postoje pojmovi koji nisu imenovani.Zato ih
pokušavamo prikazati na neki opisni način,kojim često to ne
postižemo.Osećanja je uglavnom vrlo teško opisati,jer su subjektivna
stanja,koje drugi ne mogu ni videti,ni opipati,okusiti i slično.
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Svaka ti čast na ovom opisu. Nije lako riječima opisati ono što spoznaješ.
Hvala. Imaš pravo. Ne, nije nimalo lako prodirati preko raznih razina ili dubina društveno “programiranog firewalla” jer prvo prelaziš preko “kao” svojeg vlastitog osobnog umnog firewalla” i uočavaš razne blokove "sigurnosnih" mjera kako ne smiješ percipirati ili razmišljati ili čak pomišljati vidjeti drugačije realnosti jer… odmah senzorno vidiš/osjetiš razne utjecaje da je samostalno razmišljanje nekako nejasno tinjajuće po tebe opasno :).
Zloćesto mudro zamišljeno.
Ta suptilna spoznaja koliko vidim i koja polako i nije više toliko suptilna koristi se stoljećima od strane raznih aparata.

Ali tužan, prazan, i siromašan je taj pogled vidjeti njihove živote dok su njihova tijela na životu i žive s tim što misle da imaju ili jesu, jer u dubini znaju da žive što nisu. To nije nimalo ugodno.

Nije san neka mistićna i duboka metafora nego jednostavno zapažanje iz kojeg se veseli najjednostavnijem trenutku bez iskrivljenih vanjsko implementiranih željenih "vlastitih" interpretacija trenutka, a time ni indirektno osobnih.
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