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Nepročitano 13-10-13, 17:48   #331
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Umjesto da napises: u postu ti je to i to pogresno zbog toga i toga pokusavas besmisleno na neki nacin povezati gramaticku gresku u potpisu sa samom raspravom, odnosno iracionalno implicirati time neku gresku na koju samu u stvari uopce nigdje ne ukazujes, a sto je po sebi jeftini i logicki potpuno pogresan pokusaj spiniranja.

Jako mi je zao sto to slovo tako bode oci suptilne Wertherovske osjecajcice za gramatiku, ali sa temom ipak nema veze :p


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Umjesto da napises: u postu ti je to i to pogresno zbog toga i toga pokusavas besmisleno na neki nacin povezati gramaticku gresku u potpisu sa samom raspravom, odnosno iracionalno implicirati time neku gresku na koju samu u stvari uopce nigdje ne ukazujes, a sto je po sebi jeftini i logicki potpuno pogresan pokusaj spiniranja.

Jako mi je zao sto to slovo tako bode oci suptilne Wertherovske osjecajcice za gramatiku, ali sa temom ipak nema veze :p
hoćeš reći da sam ja u krivu što se gramatike tiče?

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No držimo se teme.
Saturn, gospodar prstenova astrološki se povezuje s disciplinom, redom i pravilima, pa tako i ovo što sam prethodno pisala o pravopisu i gramatici ima svoj smisao.

Vidim da nisi ispravio, Bama.
Meni je svejedno.
Pravopisne i gramatičke pogreške neminovno ti lijepe etiketu neobrazovanog čovjeka (dakle, takve pogreške povezuju se s nenačitanošću i nedostatkom interesa za obrazovanjem i učenjem novih stvari).
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Pravopisne i gramatičke pogreške neminovno ti lijepe etiketu neobrazovanog čovjeka (dakle, takve pogreške povezuju se s nenačitanošću i nedostatkom interesa za obrazovanjem i učenjem novih stvari).
Ah, da, brojna istraživanja to potvrđuju.
Ne potvrdjuju. Ovisi o struci. Naime zena (koja je dr.sc lingvist, btv) mi se u mladjim danima naradila na gomili lektura znanstvenih radova prirodnjaka (radilo se i nekih istrazivanja akademskih govora no nisam nikada citao pa ne znam sto tamo stoji). Po onome sto vidjeh, a i u vlastitoj obitelji, inzinjeri recimo nit sa 20 doktorata nekada ne znaju pisat :)

Nadalje vise na koherentnost unutarnje mentalne organizacije ukazuje semantika nego gramatika, a postoji odredjena leksicka isl veza sa stupnjem obrazovanja, no ne nuzno i "gramaticko savrsenstvo".

Dakle opet alternativacke lazi gurane pod znanost :D

Sto sve ionako nema veze sa obicnim tipfelerom u potpisu kojime se vidim bavis vec citav dan.

Ali zato ovakva svrdlanja ad hominem i mimo teme imaju veze sa svacim necim sto doduse nema veze sa gramatikom, ali ima sa psihologijom, logikom, filozofijom.... ;)


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Bokvas mazo i s potpisom, prijaviti ću vam postove zbog oftopičarenja. Bama ne rise, jer mi je relax na ignore, pa ću morati prijaviti samo tvoje.

Svaki put pomislim da je netko napisao nešto pametno o Saturnu ili Sumeru, a kad ono..
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Bokvas mazo i s potpisom, prijaviti ću vam postove zbog oftopičarenja. Bama ne rise, jer mi je relax na ignore, pa ću morati prijaviti samo tvoje.

Svaki put pomislim da je netko napisao nešto pametno o Saturnu ili Sumeru, a kad ono..
Meni niko nije na ignore -ja vas volim sve ali ću vas morati prijaviti ...


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Ne potvrdjuju. Ovisi o struci. Naime zena (koja je dr.sc lingvist, btv) mi se u mladjim danima naradila na gomili lektura znanstvenih radova prirodnjaka (radilo se i nekih istrazivanja akademskih govora no nisam nikada citao pa ne znam sto tamo stoji). Po onome sto vidjeh, a i u vlastitoj obitelji, inzinjeri recimo nit sa 20 doktorata nekada ne znaju pisat :)

Nadalje vise na koherentnost unutarnje mentalne organizacije ukazuje semantika nego gramatika, a postoji odredjena leksicka isl veza sa stupnjem obrazovanja, no ne nuzno i "gramaticko savrsenstvo".

Dakle opet alternativacke lazi gurane pod znanost :D

Sto sve ionako nema veze sa obicnim tipfelerom u potpisu kojime se vidim bavis vec citav dan.

Ali zato ovakva svrdlanja ad hominem i mimo teme imaju veze sa svacim necim sto doduse nema veze sa gramatikom, ali ima sa psihologijom, logikom, filozofijom.... ;)
Gle, ak tebi nije neugodno da ti se smijemo, a/a
Žena ti je lingvist? Živi dokaz da se suprotnosti jako privlače

Nisu nikakve alternativne laži.

Pomno pregledan životopis neće samo ostaviti dobar dojam, već šalje i poruku da ste osoba koja pažnju posvećuje detaljima te vodi računa o tome da ostavi dobar dojam. Gramatičke greške ostavljaju dojam da ste 'prespavali osnovnu školu' i da ne poštujete osobu koja čita vaš životopis.
Gramatika i pravopis izravno utječu na dojam o vašem obrazovanju i profesionalnosti, stoga na njih obratite posebnu pažnju.
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onda daj prijavi

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Bokvas mazo i s potpisom, prijaviti ću vam postove zbog oftopičarenja. Bama ne rise, jer mi je relax na ignore, pa ću morati prijaviti samo tvoje.

Svaki put pomislim da je netko napisao nešto pametno o Saturnu ili Sumeru, a kad ono..
Opet?!?!?! Otkad?
Malo me lajkaš, malo me ignoriraš, čudan si ti svat.....


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Žena ti je lingvist? Živi dokaz da se suprotnosti jako privlače
Ona se ne bi slozila, al sta znaju fakultetski profe hrvatskog koji se bas tim podrucjem bave, zato su nam tu alternativci :D

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Gramatika i pravopis izravno utječu na dojam o vašem obrazovanju i profesionalnosti, stoga na njih obratite posebnu pažnju.
http://www.moj-posao.net/Savjet-Za-P...programeri/41/
Ostavljati dojam i biti nije isto. Postoji veza semantike sa intelektom, nacitanoscu i obrazovanjem kao i specificnog akademskog leksika sa stupnjem obrazovanja sto za posljedicu ima nesto sto bi mogli nazvati akademskim govorom koji je univerzalan, neovisno o specificnom mjestu akademske (znanstvene/obrazovne) institucije na kojem se obrazuje i/ili radi (uglavnom govorimo o najvisim akademskim zvanjima, dakle onima koji rade na znanstvenim i znanstveno-obrazovnim institucijama) i lokalnom dijalektu.

Nema medjutim tako iskljucive, jasne i direktne poveznice sa gramatikom, tu su stvari malo kompliciranije. No ako te podrucje bas zanima upravo se radi jedno takvo novo istrazivanje akademskog govora, vjerojatno ce tokom ove godine biti objavljeno :)

A da ne govorimo o tome da se uopce ne radi o gramatickoj gresci nego tipfeleru koji veze sa time nema.


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