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Nepročitano 17-07-15, 19:15   #421
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Imam se pravo složiti s bilo kime, nije moj problem ako to nije sukladno tvojim programima.

Istina je da si istrolala pola tema na forumu tako da ne vidim što je loše da se na to upozori.
Navedi koje.

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Što se tiće rasprava za sada nemam potrebu da sudjelujem u tvojim igrama i manipulacijama koje prodaješ pod duhovnost.
Uostalom zašto ponavljati mnogo puta nešto što sam već rekao? Ima mnogo mojih postova na raznim temama koje me zanimaju.

Regiram kada se nekoga napada radi različitog mišljenja i to je to.
Eh, znam ja da je pametna, obrazovana i snažna žena koja se ne boji izraziti mišljenje težak udarac za muški ego.

Priznajem samo argumente, na cvilež i cmizdrenje i emocionalne ucjene ne reagiram. Pa ako imaš neki konkretan argument, rado ću saslušati ali unjkanje i slabašne pokušaje dezavuiranja ignoriram.

Nije uopće problematično različito mišljenje nego nedostatak ikakve argumentacije.

Ako nešto tvrdiš, onda barem treba objasniti zašto je tako a ne vrijeđati druge da su fašisti i ne znam što sve ne, bez ikakve osnove. To te ne smeta? Čudno. Nemreš meni prodavati te fore, ej!

Inače, i ja reagiram kad se nekog napada bez osnove. Ali ako netko sam napada, onda mora očekivati kontraudarac. Zakon akcije i reakcije.


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Eh, znam ja da je pametna, obrazovana i snažna žena koja se ne boji izraziti mišljenje težak udarac za muški ego.

Nije uopće problematično različito mišljenje nego nedostatak ikakve argumentacije.

Ako nešto tvrdiš, onda barem treba objasniti zašto je tako a ne vrijeđati druge da su fašisti i ne znam što sve ne, bez ikakve osnove. To te ne smeta? Čudno.

Inače, i ja reagiram kad se nekog napada bez osnove. Ali ako netko sam napada, onda mora očekivati kontraudarac. Zakon akcije i reakcije.
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Eh, znam ja da je pametna, obrazovana i snažna žena koja se ne boji izraziti mišljenje težak udarac za muški ego.

Priznajem samo argumente, na cvilež i cmizdrenje i emocionalne ucjene ne reagiram. Pa ako imaš neki konkretan argument, rado ću saslušati ali unjkanje i slabašne pokušaje dezavuiranja ignoriram.

Nije uopće problematično različito mišljenje nego nedostatak ikakve argumentacije.

Ako nešto tvrdiš, onda barem treba objasniti zašto je tako a ne vrijeđati druge da su fašisti i ne znam što sve ne, bez ikakve osnove. To te ne smeta? Čudno.

Inače, i ja reagiram kad se nekog napada bez osnove. Ali ako netko sam napada, onda mora očekivati kontraudarac. Zakon akcije i reakcije.
Najlakse je sad rec da se ti branis, a ne napadas. Dobro znas koji su tvoji argumenti
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Moras doc do duhovne razine na kojoj sam ja
I jos neki....

A sto se tice trenutne situacije, bas mi se i ne svidja sto se LIK nasao tu, jer sad ispada kao da si napadnuta

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Jel tebi stvarno nije dosta Molderu? Dokle ćeš?

I onda ja trolam.

Ja sam se normalno razgovarala, argumentirano, iznoseći osobna iskustva kad si ti uljetio u temu s histeričnim ispadima o tome kako smo svi nacisti, fašisti i štatigajaznam.
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Najlakse je sad rec da se ti branis, a ne napadas. Dobro znas koji su tvoji argumenti
Nemas dosta znanja
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Krivo mislis
Moras doc do duhovne razine na kojoj sam ja
I jos neki....

A sto se tice trenutne situacije, bas mi se i ne svidja sto se LIK nasao tu, jer sad ispada kao da si napadnuta

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Ne ispada, ona je mene napala jer je napisala da sam lurker i potpirivač.

Napad je u tome jer mi je dala identitet.
To je koda da čovjeku koji boluje od karcinoma kažeš da je bolesnik, 'duhovnjaci' bi trebali na to paziti

U svakom slučaju kako bi rekla jedna forumašica, igra nije gotova
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Ne ispada, ona je mene napala jer je napisala da sam lurker i potpirivač.
Oh, cry me a river!

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Napad je u tome jer mi je dala identitet.
To je koda da čovjeku koji boluje od karcinoma kažeš da je bolesnik, 'duhovnjaci' bi trebali na to paziti

U svakom slučaju kako bi rekla jedna forumašica, igra nije gotova
Opet ti s tim duhovnjacima - već sam ti rekla da ja s duhovnjacima nemam baš puno veze. A rekla sam ti samo istinu. Nisam ti ja dala ništa - niti bih nikome mogla dati identitet. Kako je to uopće moguće. Sam si sebi stavio potpis. Ja sam samo konstatirala činjenice.


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ne znam, jos me nisi upoznala tako cu shvatiti ovaj komentar.
Nisi ni ti mene upoznao, stoga sam ti vrlo pažljivo i dobronamjerno rekla šta mi je zasmetalo, ali ne vidim da si me udostojio komentara baš na to. Što znači da me nisi uvažio/ispoštovao.

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Pre neku godinu sam bio mnogo agresivniji, ili aktivniji na ovom forumu.
Na primer rijecanka, jesam, molder i jos neki, dobro me znaju...
ovo mesto nije naucni skup, vec internet forum, na kojem svako prica, kucka blebece ili lupeta a moderatori brisu ili baniraju, a ja ili ti se slazemo ili ne slazemo. Nisam studiozno proucava sta cu napisati ovde, vec izaslo iz srca.
Ako sam skrenula pažnju na nešto u komunikaciji što mislim da nije u redu, to ne znači da umišljam da sam na naučnom skupu. To znači da mislim da to nešto nije u redu. Mislim da sam bila vrlo jasna, čak sam i obrazložila, pa onda i pitala, u slučaju da sam pogrešno zaključila.

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nisam ja nista izgubio iz juge, bas me briga za nju. Volim da pogledam neki film (domaci) iz te zemlje, i da se prisetim kako je bilo (po meni najbolje decenije xx veka su bile sedamdesete i osamdesete, ne u jugi, nego svugde).
Ja sam izneo stav, o necemu, a ne iscrpan izvestaj nekom odboru za odredjena pitanja.
Rekla sam da mi djeluješ uznemireno gubitkom, što ti ostavlja prostora da mi kažeš da griješim, jer imam samo pisani tekst na raspoloaganju. Ako smatraš da treba.

Stav koji si iznio je počeo sa: Svi ste otišli predaleko. I ja na njega reagovala, jer sam spadala u SVI, kao učesnik na temi

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Kako god mi komentarisali, juge nema, mnogima se ona gadila, i uvek ce se gaditi...
JA SAM SVESNO IZBEGAO DA IDEM U RAT KADA JE TO BILO U PRICI.
Imao sam srece da ne izgubim nikoga u ratovima, i sada imam luksuz ili srecu ili kako bih rekao, zadovoljstvo da javno kazem da imam prijatelje i medju hrvatima i albancima i srbima (sto i jesam) i medju amerima ili italijanima, i da mi je sve jedno ko je odakle, nemam opterecenje sa tim. Idem svuda po svetu, ne pricam o politici (ne cackam) i miran sam! Bande i budale postoje svuda....
a ja sam oliver... nebitno odakle sam , jer znam ko sam............
Ja sam izgubila u ratovima, ne samo ljude. I isto imam prijatelje u raznim nacijama/narodima. Isto znam ko sam.

I isto smatram da u obraćanju ljudima treba biti pažljiv. Posebno ako ih ne poznaješ. Kad već nisi pažljiv, po nečijem mišljenju, treba se dogovoriti i uskladiti, ako se tom komunikacijom želi nešto drugo sem pametovanja ili svađe.

Cijeli se moj post odnosio na samo jednu tvoju startnu rečenicu... Ostalo nisam htjela da komentarišem.

Na kraju mi je žao što si me protumačio kako jesi...




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Opet ti s tim duhovnjacima - već sam ti rekla da ja s duhovnjacima nemam baš puno veze. A rekla sam ti samo istinu. Nisam ti ja dala ništa - niti bih nikome mogla dati identitet. Kako je to uopće moguće. Sam si sebi stavio potpis. Ja sam samo konstatirala činjenice.
Pa eto tema je cjepidlačenje zar ne ?
Pravilno bi bilo, lik lurka i potpiruje.
Kada se napiše na tvoj način onda to znači da je osoba isključivo samo u tome identitetu. Što je naravno nemoguće jer ne postoje apsoluti (možda eventuvalno kod vas/onih koji ste u identitetu vjernika)
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Pa eto tema je cjepidlačenje zar ne ?
Pravilno bi bilo, lik lurka i potpiruje.
Kada se napiše na tvoj način onda to znači da je osoba isključivo samo u tome identitetu. Što je naravno nemoguće jer ne postoje apsoluti (možda eventuvalno kod vas koji ste u identitetu vjernika)
Aha, to si mislio ... ehm, nisam pazila na te detalje. Imaš pravo.

Da ispravim naknadno ili se mogu samo posuti pepelom naknadno?

Oprosti, pečem paprike pa da mi ne zagore ...


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