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Imate krasnu opciju koju nemaju i neki veći forumi, a to je ignore opcija, rješenje za osviježenje
Ignore? Ta opcija mi je kao "bježim od problema".


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Moderator postoji zbog mlađih ljudi koji bi eventualne devijacije mogli smatrati normalnim ponašanjem.
Meni ne treba, ja znam razliku između žita i kukolja, koliko mi je potrebno.
Ja ne tražim savršenstvo, tolerantna sam na sitnice i nesvjesno ponašanje, ali neke stvari se ne bi smjele dopuštati.
Kvalitetni ljudi koji su s nama dijelili iskustvo i znanje odlaze, ali ne zbog sitnica.

Treba prvo definirati što je devijacija. Ajmo se vratiti na prapočetak, na ono što je uzrokovalo sve ovo nezadovoljstvo. Čini mi se da je krenulo sa Slapom i njegovim (i ne samo njegovim) pisanjem o homoseksualizmu. Iako se ne slažem s njim, ali ja u njegovom niti jednom postu nisam uočila govor mržnje, već samo stav njega kao vjernika. On ima pravo reći i misliti da to nije normalno, on nije pozvao nikoga na linč protiv homoseksualaca. Te svoje stavove je vrlo lijepo objasnio (složili se mi ili ne). Zašto bi, pobogu, netko trebao prihvaćati nešto, ako mu to moralna načela u koja vjeruje ne dozvoljavaju? Zašto bi se trebao bojati reći što misli?




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Polako, doći će on i do linča.
Sudeći po literaturi koju citira.
Neprimjereno mi je stavljati homoseksualce općenito u skupinu s ubojicama i pedofilima.
To je uvredljivo a priori.
Ne poznajem nijednog homoseksualca osobno, ali oprosti, uvredljivo je.


Sad projiciraš nešto što ti nije u redu. Mogla bi ovo smatrati pozivom na linč protiv Slapa, da sam samo malo negativnija.
Neprimjereno ili ne, opet je to nečije mišljenje, zabluda ili predrasuda koja se neće riješiti osim dijalogom i ukazivanjem. Ili ni onda. Na žalost, mnogi pedofili su i homoseksualci i od tuda su te predrasude koje treba ispravljati i na njih ukazivati. Simpatično je da se nitko nije deklarirao (od članova koji su komentirali temu) kao homoseksualac, dakle, nitko nije osobno uvrijeđen. Ali se zato osobno vrijeđalo one koji ne misle da je homoseksualizam normalan.




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Sad projiciraš nešto što ti nije u redu. Mogla bi ovo smatrati pozivom na linč protiv Slapa, da sam samo malo negativnija.
Neprimjereno ili ne, opet je to nečije mišljenje, zabluda ili predrasuda koja se neće riješiti osim dijalogom i ukazivanjem. Ili ni onda. Na žalost, mnogi pedofili su i homoseksualci i od tuda su te predrasude koje treba ispravljati i na njih ukazivati. Simpatično je da se nitko nije deklarirao (od članova koji su komentirali temu) kao homoseksualac, dakle, nitko nije osobno uvrijeđen. Ali se zato osobno vrijeđalo one koji ne misle da je homoseksualizam normalan.
Aha, ovo bi se moglo smatrati pozivom na linč protiv Slapa,
a njegova piskaranja nisu poziv na linč protiv homoseksualaca?

Nitko ti ne brani da mu postaviš pitanje što bi on s homoseksualcima kad bi mu dali odriješene ruke.
Simptomatično je to što stalno u svezi toga citira Stari Zavjet i skriva se iza tog autoriteta koji više nije važeći Zakon.


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Aha, ovo bi se moglo smatrati pozivom na linč protiv Slapa,
a njegova piskaranja nisu poziv na linč protiv homoseksualaca?

Nitko ti ne brani da mu postaviš pitanje što bi on s homoseksualcima kad bi mu dali odriješene ruke.
Simptomatično je to što stalno u svezi toga citira Stari Zavjet i skriva se iza tog autoriteta koji više nije važeći Zakon.

Koliko znam, napisao je da bi ih liječio. Što god da citira, to je njegovo pravo. Ne, ja nisam doživjela njegovo piskaranje kao poziv na linč. Ono što nam se hoće vidjeti to i vidimo. Kao, u ostalom, i sve drugo.




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Ineresantan ili ne moj je stav i stojim pri tom. Bez straha od svega ovoga što si nabrojala, ne dira me jer se ne prepoznajem u tome.
Kada odrastao muškarac seksualno ugrožava dječaka, što je to nego pedofil homoseksualac? Kako bi ti to definirala?
Nitko ti ne osporava da pišeš i misliš što hoćeš, zašto ti to osporavaš nekom drugom?
Ne pripisuj Slapu toliku moć, netko manje stabilan napraviti će zlo bez obzira što Slap piše. Netko manje stabilan mogao je i pročitati protutežu Slapovom razmišljanju.
Uostalom, ovdje ne branim Slapove stavove nego pravo Slapa da piše ono što misli, osjeća i u što vjeruje. Bitna razlika.




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Čitao sam puno foruma, po svakakvim temama, ali nigdje nisam vidio toliko žuči kao kod tema gdje je seksualnost u pitanju .
Čak ni na temama koje se tiču nasilja nema toliko žuči, ispada da je ubijanje, premlaćivanje, lišavanje sloboda daleko manji grijeh nego bilo kakva devijacija u seksualnom smislu.
Kada pustiš milijune djece da umru od gladi, to nekako prođe, ali čim spomeneš homoseksualnost i pedofiliju, počinje masovna histerija.
Čudi me što nema masovne histerije zbog toga što u ovoj zemlji stotine tisuća gladuju jer ne mogu dobiti posla, kada se javlja nasilje i degeneracije osobnosti upravo zbog užasnih uvjeta u kojima ljudi žive. Čudi me što nema javnih tribina, skupljanja potpisa za pravo čovjeka na rad i kada svaka inicijativa da se povrate rasprodana bogatstva ove države biva od svih totalno ignorirana. A kada dođu izbori, ne odazove se niti polovica ljudi. Koliko od vas ovdje je izašlo na izbore?
I tko je napravio taj kaos sa udžbenicima i seksualnim odgojem da bi nam odvukli pažnju od gorućih problema?
Zar ćemo se tako lako uvući u rasprave čija tema se ne bi ni pojavila da se djeca odgajaju u intelektualnom, nematerijalnom i duhovnom ozračju.
Za sve što se događa, sami smo si krivi, pa najprije trebamo počistiti vlastito dvorište.




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