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Nepročitano 25-02-12, 06:53   #251
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Naravno da sluzbena medicina i dalje tvrdi da cijepljenje nikome nemoze nauditi i da je to najveci bogomdani poklon covjecanstvu

http://www.naturalnews.com/035072_Dt...es_babies.html

Jos par clanka o istoj stvari:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/0...ated-seizures/
http://ecochildsplay.com/2012/02/26/...d-to-seizures/
http://zeenews.india.com/news/health...res_15721.html
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http://www.radio101.hr/podcast.php?id=69786

gošća u studiju radija 101 bila je voditeljica Službe za epidemiologiju Zavoda za javno zdravstvo «Andrija Štampar» dr. Vladimira Lesnikar

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Čestitam doktorima i pedijatrima, cijepljenje nije obavezno i ne očekuje vas kazna ni progon. Bili smo na sistematskom za upis u školu, nije se trebao cijepiti i nije bilo problema što mu nedostaju prijašnja cjepiva. Doktorima svaka čast, zar da oni budu terorisit, provoditelji zakona za koje lobiraju lobisti Big pharme, zar da budu policajci, zar je to doktor, netko tko prisiljava na injekcije... cjepiva, eutanazije... Čujem uspješno je ovavljeno testiranje cjepiva protiv HIV-a na majmunima, slijedi testiranje na ljudima. Dakle naum je u potpuno zdrave ljude koji nemaju virus HIV-a u sebi, unijeti taj virus u njih putem injekcije - cjepiva. Tko voli neka izvoli.
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Čestitam doktorima i pedijatrima, cijepljenje nije obavezno i ne očekuje vas kazna ni progon. Bili smo na sistematskom za upis u školu, nije se trebao cijepiti i nije bilo problema što mu nedostaju prijašnja cjepiva..
možeš li malo razraditi ovo o čemu si pisala..

i mene, tj. moje klince čeka upis u školu i sistematski, a kako ih ne mislim cijepiti svako iskustvo bi dobro došlo.. gdje ste bili na sistematskom, kako je došlo do toga da ne treba cjepljenje, tko je od te ekipe došao pameti, šta sam propustio u svemu tome.. nadam se da se ne zafrkavaš ili da nisi to samo sanjala..
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Nisam sanjala. Živim u Splitu. Već više od 2 godine ne dobivaju cjepiva starije i mlađe dijete. Pedijatrica me pokušavala nagovoriti itd. ali me nije prijavila. Na sistematskom pregledu za školu krajem prošlog mjeseca je isto sve prošlo ok mada me doktorica pokušala uvjeriti da su neka cjepiva nužna za zdravlje itd. Ne znam šta se desilo, ne znam ali to je tako kako sam rekla. Mali je prošao sistematski bez cijepljenja, ona je rekla; pa nismo mi kao u konc logoru, nikoga ne silimo. Ne znam u čemu je stvar. Meni je samo sestra od naše pedijatrice rekla da ima još roditelja koji ne cijepe djecu i da se to može, to je rekla službeno jer ja nikada nisam razgovarala sa njom kurtoazno kao ni sa pedijatricom. Mislim da je to zbog EU (barem jedna a mislim i jedina dobra stvar iz unije) jer tamo je u mnogim zemljama necjepljenje po svojoj volji i uvjerenju, normalna stvar.
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super,koliko znam tu baš roditelji imaju problema sa upisom necjepljene djece ali to ovisi i o pedijatrima ili doktorima o.m.
nekima rade probleme .nekima ne :)

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Jedna stvar je , mislim bitna i to je moj savjet: nikada ne ulaziti sa pedijatrima u polemike o tome šta su cjepiva, sastav, iznositi svoja stvarna mišljenja o tome, ne to im samo može dići tlak. Ja sam mojoj samo rekla da neću, dobro bilo je zbog atopičnog dermatitisa mlađeg djeteta (no doktori misle da se i takva djeca cijepe ali ja sam rekla ne), no stariji nema nikakav zdravstveni problem, ali ja sam rekla ne. Nikada nisam rekla kako imam loše mišljenje o tome, ali ona je pretpostavila šta mislim i nije to htjela čuti pa smo obje premućale prepirke i svađe koje ne vode ničemu. Vjerovala sam uvijek u svoju odluku, u dobar ishod i tako je i ispalo.
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da i ja sam to rekla,pa je popizdila .dobro,nije me prijavila,morala sam se potpisati u karton ali je bila izrazito neugodna.beba od 2mj s tjemenicom(i to jako blagom) a ona kaže: kod mene samo cigani dolaze sa tjemenicom haha...joooj,da mi ej vidjela starijeg sina,kaj bi onda rekla

imao je jaki atopijski i jaku tjemenicu

naravno,popljuvala je i sve gdje sam vodila malog zbog ad jer sam tražila rješenja van hr i van bolnica izbjegavajući kortikosteroide.

na kraju je rekla da joj ni ne trebamo dolaziti.
kad mi je neophodna odem kod nje,inače ne

jedva čekam da ih prebacim kod doktorice opće prakse (mislim da je moja puno otvorenija ,vidjet ćemo)


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baš kako sam i mislio.. sve ovisi o pedijatru/ici, njihovom pristupu, svjetonazoru, ulozi u tom zdravstvenom sustavu.. sve ovisi o čovjeku..

a svi silni propisi, zakoni, pravilnici s jedne strane i ljudske navike, strahovi, neinformiranost, nebriga i tupost s druge strane služe samoodržanju tog i raznih drugih sustava..

kako god, ja sam se informirao, upoznao i odlučio.. spreman sam se suočiti sa sustavom..

žao mi je što to nisam ranije učinio i što sam dopustio da svoju djecu izložim riziku da im upropastim život, misleći da im činim dobro.. a u stvari me bilo strah suočiti se.. bah
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