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Nepročitano 30-07-13, 11:17   #541
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a sta je sa vitaminom K, uredno ga daju svakoj bebi nasuprot roditeljskoj zabrani cijepljenja (s obzirom da se ne smatra cijepivom)?







Da li vitamin K (daje se odmah po rodjenju) izaziva retardaciju, autizam, mozdane infarkte i epilepsiju kod dece?


March 19, 2013 at 3:27pm
1960 godine je uvedena praksa davanja vitamina K deci pod izgovorom da bebe nemaju prirodno ovog vitamina dovoljno i da je potrebno davati vestacki vitamin da se sprece moguca krvarenja kod beba. Nivoi vitamina K su proglaseni niski u poredjenju sa nivoom kod odraslih ali nije uzeta u obzir kilaza bebe kao i nutritivne potrebe beba, kao kada se recimo odredjuje doza nekog leka bebi. Nisu se (ili nisu zeleli) zapitali da li je mozda taj nivo vitamina K normalan za bebe? Necemo dati istu dozu leka bebi od 4 kg i odraslom coveku od 70kg ali zato se vitamin K daje bebama u 300 puta vecim dozama od potrebnih.


O cemu se ovde u ustvari radi?
Vitamin K povecava koagulabilnost krvi i dovodi do blazih ili tezih mozdanih infarkta, (zacepljenja krvnih sudova u mozgu) i posledica kao sto su blaga ili teza retardacija, autizam, cerebralna paraliza, epilepsija i mnogi drugi poremecaji koje ne povezujemo sa necim sto se tako bezazleno zove: vitamin K.
Dok beba u stomaku dobija kiseonik putem krvi, ima veci broj eritrocita (crvenih krvnih zrnaca) zbog manje koncentracije kiseonika u krvi nego u atmosferskom vazduhu. Kada beba pocne da dise svojim plucima, razori se visak eritrocita a rezultat je povecana koncentracija bilirubina. Bilirubin se normalno metabolise zdravom jetrom kada nema nikakve zutice, medjutim zbog velikih kolicina sinteticke supstance (vitamin K) uz mesavinu opasnih toksicnih materija kao sto su: aluminijum, benzyl alkohol, hidrohloricna kiselina, masne govedje kiseline i dr., dolazi do preopterecenosti jetre, do zapusenja i vracanja bilirubina nazad u krv sto izaziva zuticu koju u oficijalnoj medicini zovu "fizioloska zutica". Ukoliko je kolicina bilirubina veca, moze doci do ostecenja mozga pa nam je poznata bliska veza izmedju ostecenja mozga bilirubinom i cerebralne paralize.


Znaci, vitamin K povecava koagulabilnost i dovodi do mozdanih udara kod beba kao sto rade i vakcine sto je opisao Dr. Andrew Moulden i drugi lekari iz tima koji su istrazivali negativno delovanje vakcina. Oni tvrde da vakcine izazivaju male mozdane udare kod dece koja ih primaju. Naime, zbog toksina iz vakcina i velike koncentracije belih krvnih zrnaca u sicusnim krvnim sudovima u mozgu, dolazi do njihovog zapusenja a crvena krvna zrnca se nadogradjuju i stvaraju tromb na tom mestu sto dovodi do neishranjenosti tog dela mozga, autizma, cerebralne paralize ili manjih mozdanih udara sto se jasno vidi po nesimetricnosti usana i ociju koje detaljno opisuje Dr Moulden na svojim predavanjima.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58KLLm1q0_Y


Da se vratimo vitaminu K.
Na upozorenju koje ide uz vitamin K pise da su istrazivanja pokazala da davanje vitamina K u misic ili u venu, moze imati teske posledice kao sto su anafilakticki sok, zastoj rada srca i pluca i smrt i da je sigurnije davati potkozno. Medjutim mi danas znamo da se vitamin K daje u misic.


Ono sto je veoma zabrinjavajuce je sto sve cesce dolazimo do podataka da vitamin K izaziva rak, posebno leukemiju kod dece!
Istrazivanja 1970-e godine su pokazala da se kod dece koja su dobila vitamin K u prvoj nedelji zivota pojava raka do desete godine zivota, povecala 3 puta.
1998-e godine su uradjene novije studije, objavljene u Britanskom Medicinskom Zurnalu, koje potvrdjuju da se rak a posebno leukemija kod dece izmedju prve i seste godine zivota, javlja dva puta cesce kod dece koja su dobila vitamin K na rodjenju.


I na kraju, da li nam je potreban vestacki vitamin K? Ne. Prirodan vitamin K se nalazi u zelenom lisnatom povrcu i potrebno je da majke u trudnoci i u toku dojenja uzimaju dovoljno zelenog lisnatog povrca da bi svojim bebama obezbedile dovoljno ovog vitamina kroz placentu i majcino mleko.
Takodje, prilikom porodjaja se pupcana vrpca sece odmah po rodjenu, dok jos pulsira i dok se krv jos uvek krece od majke ka detetu. Tako beba ostaje bez 1/3 krvi. Pupcana vrpca se pravilno sece najranije po prestanku pulsiranja a najkasnije kada se pupcana vrpca potpuno osusi.


Trebamo kao roditelji preuzeti odgovornost, pobrinuti se za zdrav zivot nase dece i spreciti ovakve sulude aktivnosti koje nasoj deci mogu potpuno upropastiti zdravlje i buducnost.


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Uh, s*anje! Nisam znala ovo za vitamin K.


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Eto i kod mene se rodio sin i isto me hebu oko izjava i sranja. Dali su mu vitamin k
a sad bezobrazna pedijatrica ne sljivi mpj razlog odbijanja nego zeli da i ja i suprug potpisujemo tu njihovu sluzbrnu izjavu. Trazi oib i potpisr i slijedi prijava.
Sta da radim? uvjrrava me da moramo potpisati i to oboje


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a kako bi bilo da prijavis ti njih jer su mu dali konakion.. unatoc tome sto je ta medicinska usluga na zakonit nacin s vase strane odbijena!! amandmani nam garantiraju slobodu i pravo izbora po tom pitanju!! dakle imamo pravo odbiti medicinsku uslugu koju ne zelimo.. zakon koji krsi amandman koji nam omogucuje da sami odlucujemo o vlastitom zdravlju je protuustavan.. a sad.. na nama ljudima je dali cemo dopustiti da nas se preplasi i gazi na taj nacin..



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“I came away from the talk with the perception that the risk of adverse side effects is so much greater than the risk of cervical cancer, I couldn’t help but question why we need the vaccine at all.” – Joan Robinson

Dr. Harper explained in her presentation that the cervical cancer risk in the U.S. is already extremely low, and that vaccinations are unlikely to have any effect upon the rate of cervical cancer in the United States. In fact, 70% of all H.P.V. infections resolve themselves without treatment in a year, and the number rises to well over 90% in two years. Harper also mentioned the safety angle.

All trials of the vaccines were done on children aged 15 and above, despite them currently being marketed for 9-year-olds. So far, 15,037 girls have reported adverse side effects from Gardasil alone to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (V.A.E.R.S.), and this number only reflects parents who underwent the hurdles required for reporting adverse reactions.

At the time of writing, 44 girls are officially known to have died from these vaccines. The reported side effects include Guillian Barré Syndrome (paralysis lasting for years, or permanently — sometimes eventually causing suffocation), lupus, seizures, blood clots, and brain inflammation. Parents are usually not made aware of these risks.

Dr. Harper, the vaccine developer, claimed that she was speaking out, so that she might finally be able to sleep at night.

“About eight in every ten women who have been sexually active will have H.P.V. at some stage of their life. Normally there are no symptoms, and in 98 per cent of cases it clears itself. But in those cases where it doesn’t, and isn’t treated, it can lead to pre-cancerous cells which may develop into cervical cancer.” – Dr. Diane Harper

One must understand how the establishment’s word games are played to truly understand the meaning of the above quote, and one needs to understand its unique version of “science”.

When they report that untreated cases “can” lead to something that “may” lead to cervical cancer, it really means that the relationship is merely a hypothetical conjecture that is profitable if people actually believe it. In other words, there is no demonstrated relationship between the condition being vaccinated for and the rare cancers that the vaccine might prevent, but it is marketed to do that nonetheless.

In fact, there is no actual evidence that the vaccine can prevent any cancer. From the manufacturers own admissions, the vaccine only works on 4 strains out of 40 for a specific venereal disease that dies on its own in a relatively short period, so the chance of it actually helping an individual is about about the same as the chance of him being struck by a meteorite.

Why do nine-year-old girls need vaccinations for extremely rare and symptom-less venereal diseases that the immune system usually kills anyway?
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Kući sam već dva dana, pobjegli smo iz bolnice na vlastitu odgovornost :D

Uglavnom, cijela priča sa rospijom je zavrsila tako da, s obzirom da sam vidjela da se nemam snage prepucavati s njom i s njenim zakonima i arogancijom, na fino smo joj potpisali izjavu ministarstva i na tu istu izjavu dodali da "se ne slazemo s gore navedenim i da ne cijepimo iz vjerskih uvjerenja".
Nije nis prokomentirala. Samo mi je mali milijun puta naglasila da ce nas prijaviti i gdje jer ona to mora.
Elegantno sam joj rekla da nema problema. Bilo mi je sasvim svejedno čime mi prijeti.

I s obzirom da "smo se ranije otpustili" sutra idemo na provjeru sluha i vađenje krvi.
I napokon je i mužu nekako došlo iz guzice u glavu šta sve stoji u pozadini cijepiva.

Interesantno kako nitko (od ginekologa do pedice) nije spominjao "bolesti" koje se mogu dobiti ukoliko ne cijepis nego me iskreno nisu ni nagovarali, više su me zamarali zakonima, problema u buducnosti, prijavama, socijalnoj koja dolazi na vrata itd itd.
A babica u rađaoni, nakon što mi je odnjela dijete na presvlačenje i pregled, pitala me "znači, da napomenem da ne cijepe".
Kad se vratila sam ju pitala da li su stvarali probleme, a ona mi je odgovorila "nisu, ne brinite. Niste ni prva ni zadnja koja ne cijepi svoju djecu, bitno je da ako imate neka uvjerenja da ih drzite do kraja i to je. Na koncu vi ste mu roditelj."

Uskoro je na redu pedijatrica.

Nemam pojma kako ce sve ovo zavrsiti. Trenutno se ne zamaram. Uzivam s bebicom


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opet bila kod pedice u rodilištu, ovaj put neka druga, i prvo pita ona mene da li sam potpisala onu izjavu?? - Jesam.
- a zasto ne cijepite dijete? - Iz vjerskih razloga
- Oh, pa sta ima vjera koja to brane, kako šašava odluka. Znate koliko cete komplikacija sada imati, dolaziti ce vam doma. A i dijete nece moci u vrtic. Time ga ugrozavate jer su sva ostala dijeca cijepljena...
- da, ali ukoliko je90% stanovnistva cijepljeno i on je zaštićen time
- ah, pa znaci idete na to da ga stite druga dijeca, ali nate da SVATKO TKO PRIMI CIJEPIVO, DOBIJE TU ISTU BOLEST U BLAGOM OBLIKU?
- da, ZNAM, i time je zarazno
- eh, pa sta cete onda dijete voziti okolo s maskicom?
- cudno da u Njemačkoj ne hodaju s maskicama
- onda ste mogla roditi u drugoj drzavi, svaka ima svoje protokole...ako cijepiva postoje znači da postoji i razlog
- da znam...

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uhhh.. da.. nekada se pitam sto je to tim ljudima.. da toliko needucirani obavljaju svoj "posao".. da od 6 pedijatara koje sam pitao i koji su me doslovno prozivali kakav sam ja to roditelj nijedan nije znao sastav nijednog cjepiva koje promovira!!


ne brini se nista.. moci ce ti dijete ici u vrtic.. i sve ce moci.. sve se da rjesiti.. pricam ti iz osobnog iskustva.. stoga samo smireno.. posveti svoje vrijeme, energiju, paznju i ljubav tom divnom malom bicu.. a ovo sve drugo ce se korak po korak rjesiti..

savjetujem da budes razumna i prisebna.. umjesto agresivna spram njih.. jer tako nisam nikada naletio na veci otpor.. doduse.. oni dolaze u jako nezgodnu poziciju kada udju u raspravu samnom.. jer vide koliko toga neznaju o onome sto cine.. pa se uglavnom povuku uz komentar u stilu dobro.. vasa odluka..

no vidjelo se da je dosta njih ostalo barem malo poljuljano u svojoj "sigurnosti i znanju" koje prodaju okolo..


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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joj, trudim se biti jako oprezna i smirena, izbjegavam ulaziti u rasprave...tu mi pomaze i razlog necijepljenja, jer me ne sili da im filozofiram o stetnosti istih.
Ma njima je najbitnija birokacija. Strasno inzistiraju na izjavi ministarstva, doslovce te prisiljavaju da ju potpises a u njoj hrpa pi*darija. Ne sljive tvoj razlog odbijanja.
Ako me nisu 20 puta pitali za tu izjavu. I zanimljivo, svi su me zapamtili, znaci sve sestre i pedice su znale da ne cijepim malog.

imam proljev od ovog sustava, sve je naopako i nenormalno.


Ci eravamo incontrati perché doveva succedere; e anche se non fosse stato quel giorno,
prima o poi ci saremmo sicuramente incontrati da qualche altra parte.
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