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Nepročitano 23-05-11, 11:59   #1
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Upravo tražim više informacija za nešto na što me upozorila prijateljica koja je psihijatar, još kad sam bila trudna.
Naime, baš mi je stručno objasnila da svom djetetu ne skidam temperaturu dok ne bude visoka (iznad 38 ili 38,5 stepeni), a i tada da pokušam na bilo koji način bez medikamenata je smanjiti ako baš vidim da raste. Od tog "predavanja" pišem samo ono što mi se urezalo u sjećanje.
Objasnila mi je da je temperatura obrambreni mehanizam tijela kojim će uništi bakterije ili viruse koji ga ugrožavaju. Tek kada temperatura tijela dođe na 38 stepeni tijelo počinje da luči neku supstancu koja je od velike važnosti za regulaciju temperature, ali i za povećanje i jačanje otpornosti organizma. Preranim skidanjem temperature kod djece, roditelji onemogućavaju prethodno opisan mehanizam, pa će dijete kasnije u životu moguće imati nisku otpornost na povišenu temeraturu i biće osuđeno na konstantno korištenje medikamenata. Tijelo koje nije dobilo priliku da reaguje i samo se bori s problemom, neće više ni reagovati - ta funkcija u tijelu će biti na jedan način ukinuta.

Na netu nigdje ne nalazim na podatke o ovome

Ja se pridržavam ovog savjeta, ne paničim (svojski se kontrolišem), a i potpuno razumijem reakcije na temperaturu izazvane strahom za dobrobit djeteta.

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po meni posjedujes ispravne informacije i veliko bravo za doktoricu! da ih je bar vise takvih :)
ja se ponasam isto tako.. nema panike nikakve.. povisena tjelesna temperatura pomaze organizmu da se ozdravi i izbaci toksine/bolest vani sto prije i ucinkovitije.. ako bas dodje kriticno zagnjur u kadu i "nema zime"..
..hmm.. ili mozda ipak ovisi s koje strane kade si

temperatura je slican mehanizam kao sto kod prehlade bakterije pomazu razgraditi i izbaciti sve lose stvari van organizma.. ako popijes antibiotik.. hop cap ubio si bakterije, a svo to smece ce ostati u tijelu jer nema bakterija da to izbace van i vrlo brzo "bolest" ce se vratiti.. i vracat ce se dok god tijelu napokon ne dozvolimo da izbaci van sve to sto treba i kako treba..

dakle zakljucak je da silnim intervencijama i nacinima da tijelu "pomognemo" vrlo cesto ucinimo upravo suprotno i dugorocno si ucinimo puno vise stete.. a nije ni cudo kad nas farmacija na to huska i trenira od malih nogu nebi li bili sto vjernije i za njihov djep najvaznije CESCE musterije


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E, ta istreniranost je problem!
Odrasteš sa obrascima koji se fino usađuju vremenom, i onda se kao kameleoni ukamufliraju i sjede sigurno i udobno.
I kad mislim da sam uklonila neki od njih, u određenoj situaciji je najlakše uraditi kako je naučeno, i takav trud treba uložiti da stanem, shvatim gdje sam, ko sam i potražim neki drugi način, ili uradim po načinu za koji uvijek sebi kažem da je bio kao ideja prisutan, ali ga uvijek odbacim, a tako osjećam da je tačan.

I tako... Temperatura je dobra za nas


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evo što homeopat i liječnik Dr. Roger Morrison veli o temperaturi:

- umjetno skidanje temperature može produljiti trajanje bolesti

- ako vrućica traje dulje od 2 dana, obavezno je posjetiti liječnika

- temperatura do 39C nije opasna, sem kod starijih ljudi ili vrlo male djece, osoba s nekom teškom bolesti i imunodepresijom (npr. kancer) i kod osoba koje imaju febrilne konvulzije u povijesti bolesti

- svaki znak vrućice kod novorođenčadi (starost do 6 tjedana) znak je opasnosti

- ako pacijent nema povijest febrilnih konvulzija, temperatura se može pustiti na 39, pa i 40C, ukoliko se pacijent ne osjeća jako loše...

- važna komponenta liječenja bolesti s vrućicom je adekvatan unos tekućine...

- mlake kupke pomažu nekim pacijentima, ali i tu treba biti oprezan. Voda mora biti topla, a ne hladna. Ako pacijent drhti, reakcija tijela bit će još viša temperatura...

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Upravo tražim više informacija za nešto na što me upozorila prijateljica koja je psihijatar, još kad sam bila trudna.
Naime, baš mi je stručno objasnila da svom djetetu ne skidam temperaturu dok ne bude visoka (iznad 38 ili 38,5 stepeni), a i tada da pokušam na bilo koji način bez medikamenata je smanjiti ako baš vidim da raste.
Ima li neko više info od mene na temu?
http://www.alternativa-za-vas.com/vrucica.html

http://www.alternativa-za-vas.com/in...-antipiretici/

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'Ni ja ne skidam temperaturu svom detetu dok ne predje 38 C...madjutim kod njega skoro svaki put ona ide preko 39 do 40....tako da moram reagovzati sa svim raspolozivim sredstvima antipiretici u obliku cepica (druge nece), tusiranje ili kupanje po 10-15 minuta, trljanje rastvor voda i sirce ili alkohol (moze i rakija).... ja ni ne smtram da im atemperaturu dok je ispod 38, nekada prodje i bez svega ali kad krene da ide gore znam da ce nastaviti da se penje visoko...
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ja se osjecam pijan vec nakon 37.5°C, tada znam da imam povisenu temperaturu !



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Pa ja tražim danas bilo šta pametno na netu o ovome i onda mi Spring da najsmislenije članke koji su mi bili pred nosom

Nuna, ja te razumijem. Moj sin je imao temperaturu 39,4 stepena u nekoliko navrata jučer i prekjučer. Kad izgleda da je stanje najgore, uskoro poslije toga dolazi do poboljšanja, čim krene znojenje.
Onda je nekoliko sati ok. Najstrašnije je što se moj sin osuo po cijelom tijelu, ima izmjene na jeziku, krajnike... pa sam baš morala disati duboko i ne pasti pod uticaj čudnih pogleda okoline što se oslanjam na prirodu.

Ono što mene interesuje je: Koliko dugo nije opasno da dijete ima jako visoku temperaturu? U članku sa Alternativa za vas piše da nije dobro ako traje, da može doći do komplikacija. Ok, to kontam i toga me i strah, ali je li 5 minuta temperature od 40 stepeni ok, ili 1 minut, ili 15 minuta?

Znam nekoliko gluhonijemih osoba koje su su prije visoke temperature u djetinjstvu čuli i govorili.

Evo novosti - odvela sam sina predveče ljekaru, reda radi. Pogodićete od prve! Antibiotik smo dobili jer je grlo crveno i kao da ima sluzi


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a ljudi nemojte se sad bas igrati s tom temperaturom iznad 38.5 to je ipak malo previse

bas radi mozga posto se mozak nesastoji od klasicnog misica pa da skoro nije bitno dok nepocne peci, vec znate i sami od cega je, pa time je ono izimno osjetljivo na povisene temperature sto moze dovesti do ostecenje mozga !



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proc ce to nemaj straha :) tapsh tapsh

kontroliraj mu redovno temperaturu.. ako predje 38.5-39 pocni sa oblozima sirce-voda, carape natopljene rakijom itd.. znas vec protokol, a ako predje 40 tusiranac.. u svakom slucaju daj mu svoje energije i ljubavi.. nedaj da te strah preplavi i blokira u tom smislu

nuna mozda je na 38 cak pre rano pocet skidat.. meni se cini da je bolje malo kasnije pocet.. 38.5-39? sta ostali kazu? red? spring?


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