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Nepročitano 21-10-11, 02:02   #81
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znači...ljubav ne postoji?
Ne postoji ljubav koja boli.

Postoji strah i ovisnost...vlastito neostvarenje koje sudjeluje u odnosima koji između ostalog uključuju i ljubav.


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nije da ne postoji nego se događa nagli deficit.... ode u minus... i to više nije ljubav....nego nedostatak ljubavi.
Ako ćemo po onome kako obično volimo i želimo gledati ljubav onda ljubav prvenstveno podrazumijeva dobro osobe koju volimo.

A to znači da smo spremni i na to da nas ta osoba napusti jer na svojem životnom putu iskustvo sa nama ih čini nesretnima i sputanima.
Ako ljubav prema tom ljudskom biću postoji onda ćemo vlastitom odlukom raskinuti intimnu vezu čak i onda kada smo "najzagrijaniji".

Bol?
Takva bol je sporedna stvar u iskrenoj ljubavi prema ljudskom biću u svoj svojoj cijelini.
Naravno, to je ideal.
Svi tražimo pažnju i borimo se sa svojim slabostima. Nekad smo bliži a nekad dalji tom idealu.

Mislim da je poanta u putu prema idealu koji se nikad ne može ostvariti.


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Karakteristike bezuvjetne ljubavi? Njezine su osnovne osobine prihvaćanje druge osobe onakvom kakva jest, potpuna podrška njenoj osobnosti, podrška njenim ciljevima i podrška njenoj neovisnosti. Pored razumijevanja i topline, bezuvjetna će se ljubav ponekad manifestirati kao napuštanje čvrste vezanosti koja može dovesti i do međusobnog udaljavanja. Tako je bezuvjetna ljubav ponekad i nemilosrdna, ali samo ako je promatramo površno. Naime, ukoliko netko od partnera nije spreman primiti našu ljubav ili je čak u otvorenom sukobu s nama zbog takve naše težnje, treba pribjeći taktici udaljavanja. Takvo udaljavanje, međutim, nipošto ne bi smjelo biti poslijedicom naše uvrijeđenosti, dakle negativne namjere, već bi trebalo biti odrazom nemilosrdne ljubavi koja se manifestira kao ne-ljubav ili ljubav u mirovanju. Dobar se dio veza u pozitivnom smislu ostvaruje kroz ljubav u mirovanju jer negativna karma ne dozvoljava ništa više od toga. No, i ljubav u mirovanju vodi do pomaka. Prije ili kasnije osobe s kojima smo prekinuli kontakt, zbog toga što nismo željeli sudjelovati u negativnom tipu odnosa, shvate poruku. Tada se ne-ljubav obično pretvara u otvoreno izražavanje ljubavi.


Ako na Ljubav gledamo kao na duhovno iskustvo, otvramo mogućnost voljnog utjecaja na stanja svijesti Kod osobe zdrave duše nećemo naići na otpor prema bilo kojem sadržaju svijesti, niti prisilno boravljenje u nekom nepoželjnom stanju. Duševno zdrava osoba nema težnji koje sama blokira, ciljeve čija bi neostvarenost imala uzroke unutar njene psihe. Svijest psihički zdrave osobe ispunjena je poželjnim sadržajima svijesti, pozitivnim mislima i emocijama. Kada se u njoj pojave negativna duševna stanja, takva osoba znade kako će ih pretvoriti u pozitivna. Zato psihički zdrava osoba ima sposobnost voljnog utjecaja na sadržaje vlastite svijesti.






Možemo si pomoći na način da dozvolimo Ljubavi da naraste do neslučenih razmjera...tipa ovakve ljubavi.....










I toga trena BOL više ne porstoji, jer smo je zavoljeli.... i poništili bezuvjetnom ljubavi...







My Love

My love is warmer than a smile
My love gives to every needing child
If anyone should ask you who's my true love
Tell them my love true is ever letting all their love come through

My love sees love with not a face
And lives to love through time and space
If all of everything about my love fits to the tune of you
Then you can say that you are my love too

Let my love shine throughout the world
To every mountain top and steeple
Let it be felt by every soul
'Til love's all over
Let it reach out to every heart
To every disenfranchised people
'Til it is present and no more is pain all over

Our love sees love's the key to peace
We'll pray 'til all world wars have ceased
Should you or anyone you know enough to say they feel as we
Then let our universal song be free

Let our love shine throughout the world
To every mountain top and steeple
Let it be felt by every soul
'Til love's all over
Let it reach out to every heart
To every disenfranchised people
'Til it is present and no more is pain all over

Say words of love to all we see
To rich or poor for love is equal
Let us lift up humanity
Spead love all over
Let all its forces join as one
So to rebuke all signs of evil
Through every valley, land and sea
Our love's all people


TRAŽIM LJUDE, ŠTO VIŠE LJUDI,
KOJI IMAJU NEOGRANIČENU SPOSOBNOST UVJERENJA
DA NE POSTOJI NEŠTO ŠTO JE NEMOGUĆE UČINITI
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ljubav je vjecni sveprozimajuci neutazivi plamen..
ono sto se mjenja nije sama ljubav, vec nasa razina sposobnosti da tu ljubav prepoznamo


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Ljubav je svaki susret energija ljubavi gdje se one eksponencijalno mnoze.

Ljubav je poput ptice . Što joj više slobode priuštiš i pokloniš ljepše leti , a ne postoji ljepša melodija od pjesme ljudske duše koja ju tada zapjeva.
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Voljeti znači voljeti usprkos,a ne zbog nečega.

Sve što znam o ljubavi je da je ljubav sve.

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vidin da mi je maklo post, ocito san bija preprost (cak se i rimuje)
sa onim san mislija da je ljubav kad cinis nesto sta ti nije drago osobno al cinis za ljubav prema drugome


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TRAŽIM LJUDE, ŠTO VIŠE LJUDI,
KOJI IMAJU NEOGRANIČENU SPOSOBNOST UVJERENJA
DA NE POSTOJI NEŠTO ŠTO JE NEMOGUĆE UČINITI
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Ne postoji ljubav koja boli.

Postoji strah i ovisnost...vlastito neostvarenje koje sudjeluje u odnosima koji između ostalog uključuju i ljubav.
Bio je narkoman.Na igli.Sin.Pobjegao iz komune.
Došao pred majčina vrata.Imao je 20 godina.
Kucao je...molio..Majko, otvori mi vrata...Preklinjem te...
Kao Ujevićev smrtnik za vratima gostionice.

Majka je znala da ne smije popustiti.Rekoše joj u komuni-Ne puštaj ga u dom, ne puštaj!!!!Ako ga voliš......

Nije mu otvorila vrata.On se vratio.U komunu.

Danas je izlječen.Živi 100m od mene.Radi.Sretan je.I on, i majka, vole Boga.

Ne postoji ljubav koja boli?


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Sve što znam o ljubavi je da je ljubav sve.
Formulirao bih to na način da iskustva mjerimo po odnosu prema "ljubavi" kao univerzalnom kriteriju.

Po tome....ljubav je sve.


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