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Nepročitano 25-11-13, 20:06   #151
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Sta zna licinka o kretanju?Sta zna gusenica o letenju?Sta zna leptir o univerzumu? Sta zna covek o Izvoru?
Ličinki nije potrebno kretanje, gusjenici letenje, leptiru univerzum.
Čovjeku je potrebno biti nešto drugo. Ponekad.


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Ličinki nije potrebno kretanje, gusjenici letenje, leptiru univerzum.
Čovjeku je potrebno biti nešto drugo. Ponekad.
Zašto?

Sloboda je relativan pojam.

U okvirima našeg poimanja sloboda postoji. Svatko je slobodan odabrati u svakom trenutku opcije a, b, c .... itd. Svim mikroodlukama koje radimo doslovno svakog trenutka demonstriramo svoju slobodu.

Ona nije apsolutna jer npr. nismo slobodni odlučiti ne umrijeti ili ne disati ili poletjeti. Pa tako sloboda za čovjeka i za Boga ne znači istu stvar (vjerojatno). Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi.

No, sloboda je i stanje duha u kojem život poimamo kao dar, živeći ga bez straha - upravo zato što znamo (ili slutimo) da naši životi uistinu ne pripadaju nama i da konce vuče netko drugi.

Ukratko, slobodni smo ko ribice u akvariju. U njemu možemo radit što nas volja ali ne možemo iz njega izaći (osim kad krepamo).


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Ličinki nije potrebno kretanje, gusjenici letenje, leptiru univerzum.
Čovjeku je potrebno biti nešto drugo. Ponekad.
Radi se o poimanju sta je sloboda, a sta ogranicenje iste, samim stepenom razvitka pojedinih jedinki . jer nemozes znati da nisi slobodan ako nisi spoznao visi stepen slobode koji je dostupan na stepenici vise...
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Zašto?

Sloboda je relativan pojam.

U okvirima našeg poimanja sloboda postoji. Svatko je slobodan odabrati u svakom trenutku opcije a, b, c .... itd. Svim mikroodlukama koje radimo doslovno svakog trenutka demonstriramo svoju slobodu.

Ona nije apsolutna jer npr. nismo slobodni odlučiti ne umrijeti ili ne disati ili poletjeti. Pa tako sloboda za čovjeka i za Boga ne znači istu stvar (vjerojatno). Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi.

No, sloboda je i stanje duha u kojem život poimamo kao dar, živeći ga bez straha - upravo zato što znamo (ili slutimo) da naši životi uistinu ne pripadaju nama i da konce vuče netko drugi.

Ukratko, slobodni smo ko ribice u akvariju. U njemu možemo radit što nas volja ali ne možemo iz njega izaći (osim kad krepamo).
Možda je najbolje da se koristim tvojim riječima.

1. Sloboda je relativan pojam
2. Nismo slobodni odlučiti ne umrijeti ili ne disati
3. Sloboda je stanje duha u kojem život poimamo kao dar....-upravo zato što znamo (slutimo) da naši životi ne pripadaju nama...

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Sloboda je za nekog izac van na svjez zrak,za nekog drugog sloboda je rastvaranje ove realnosti,stvarmo sloboda je relativan pojam.
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Sloboda je za nekog izac van na svjez zrak,za nekog drugog sloboda je rastvaranje ove realnosti,stvarmo sloboda je relativan pojam.
Paaa, sa slobodom je ko sa istinom: ima samo jedna istina. Sve drugo su neki subjektivni doživljaji uvjetovani programiranjem, indoktinacijom i uvjerenjima ... iskrivljene ogledalne slike - ko u lunaparku.


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S tom sam se temom susrela već prije par godina, a sad vidim da se uhvatila i da ima još ljudi koji se time ozbiljno bave!

Iz svega rečenog jasno je da Republika Hrvatska doista jest tvrtka, korporacija...

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