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Nepročitano 22-03-15, 09:39   #191
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Samospoznaja ili pak samo mala kap Spoznaje u moru Spoznaja koje svojim talasima miluju Nebo na Zemlji...u centru je svakog Srca ,u dubini svake duše...
Iz centra srca raste kompas ,a slobodu i želju izražaja vlastitog potencijala pokazuju nam njegove kazaljke...
Mi smo ti koji im viruju il neviruju,a to je proporcionalno sa visinom frekvencije u osjećanju
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Bitna je suština onoga što sam napisao, sad da li se to zove religija, sustav vjerovanja, tuđa iskustva itd. nije bitno.

Čim netko ide definirati nekome drugome duhovnost, ograničava ga tom definiranošću.
Da, bitna je suština rečenog - zato i pitam jer nisam uopće shvatila što je pisac htio reći. I još uvijek ne razumijem svrhu niti smisao napisanog.

Kako ti predlažeš da komuniciramo nego riječima? Koga to riječi mogu ograničiti u dubljem razumijevanju? Riječi su okvir, a jasno je da su nedovoljne da izraze potpunu istinu, no ograničavaju samo onoga tko ih se drži kao pijan plota.

Isprazno filozofiranje isto baš ne vodi nikud.


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malo zezancije,al sve vodi nečemu ,čak i isprazna filozofiranja ,kao i prekomjerna težina ili anoreksija, sve ima svoj smisao koja ima svoj završetak ili početak, vam smo teme ,al kaj sad
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Da, bitna je suština rečenog - zato i pitam jer nisam uopće shvatila što je pisac htio reći. I još uvijek ne razumijem svrhu niti smisao napisanog.

Kako ti predlažeš da komuniciramo nego riječima? Koga to riječi mogu ograničiti u dubljem razumijevanju? Riječi su okvir, a jasno je da su nedovoljne da izraze potpunu istinu, no ograničavaju samo onoga tko ih se drži kao pijan plota.

Isprazno filozofiranje isto baš ne vodi nikud.
A eto moža jocker Jiddu pomogne:

'Ako postavite pitanje bez traženja odgovora, naći ćete odgovor. No ako postavite pitanje nadajući se da ćete naći odgovor, vaš odgovor bit će u skladu s vašom uvjetovanošću.''

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''Čovjek koji se posvetio određenom putu ili činu uhvaćen je u sustave i neće naći istinu. Kroz dio se cjelina nikad ne može pronaći. Kroz malu pukotinu u prozoru ne vidimo nebo, čudesno jasno nebo, a čovjek koji može vidjeti nebo jasno je čovjek koji je na otvorenome, daleko od svih puteva, svih tradicija.''

p.s. slažem se da spamamo temu, preporučam prebaciti u duhovnost u temu 'Sloboda'
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A eto moža jocker Jiddu pomogne:

'Ako postavite pitanje bez traženja odgovora, naći ćete odgovor. No ako postavite pitanje nadajući se da ćete naći odgovor, vaš odgovor bit će u skladu s vašom uvjetovanošću.''

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''Čovjek koji se posvetio određenom putu ili činu uhvaćen je u sustave i neće naći istinu. Kroz dio se cjelina nikad ne može pronaći. Kroz malu pukotinu u prozoru ne vidimo nebo, čudesno jasno nebo, a čovjek koji može vidjeti nebo jasno je čovjek koji je na otvorenome, daleko od svih puteva, svih tradicija.''

p.s. slažem se da spamamo temu, preporučam prebaciti u duhovnost u temu 'Sloboda'
Potpisujem!

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Evo malo "slobodne" filozofije/ asociralo me na slobodu promišljanja o Bogu religiji, a on je propovjedao odrešitost kako i od samoga sebe, tako i odrešitost od Boga kao puteve do Boga.

Meister Eckhart, krscanski propovjednik dominikanac, filozof, mistik, ( Crkva je neka njegova promišljanja proglasila herezom)...

Evo nekih njegovih promišljanja na koje sam naišla u jednoj knjizi
..." Moramo ukloniti slike, predodbe i iskustva kojima smo obicavali ispunjavati nasu unutarnju prazninu, te takoreci iskopati nasu unutarnju prazninu koja ce uvuci Boga u jastvo. Eckhart je davao duhovno znacenje praznom prostoru. Priroda se mozda uzasava praznine, ali nasa unutarnja praznina privuci ce Nista koje je Bog jer sve tezi postici svoje prirodno mjesto.
Jer dok ljubis Boga kao Boga, kao duha, kao osobu, kao sliku svega se toga moras rijesiti! Kako onda da ga ljubim? Treba da ga ljubis kao neBoga, neduha, nesliku, svjetlog, "Jednog" odjeljenog od svakog dvojstva A u taj Jedan moramo vjecno ponirati iz "necega" u "nista".
Mozemo misliti o kojecemu, ali o Bogu samome nitko ne moze misliti. To stanje "neznanja" nije poraz nego postignuce. Do te tocke dolazimo tako sto nemilosrdno reduciramo sav nas govor o Bogu, sve dok se molitva ne svede na jednu jedinu rijec: "Bog" ili Ljubav! To nije lako postici. Nas ce um brze bolje krenuti ispunjavati prazninu koju pokusavamo naciniti u sebi "prekrasnim" mislima o "Bozjoj" dobroti, milosti, ljubavi, milosrdnosti. Ali sve dok se ne oglusimo na tu poboznu graju necemo se pomaknuti s pocetne tocke. U meduvremenu, moramo ustrajati u svojim molitvama...Ako u tome ustraje, um ce naposljetku abdicirati i dopustiti Ljubavi da preuzme vodstvo.
Nemoguce je prema Bogu osjecati ljubav koju osjecamo prema stvorenjima Bog u kojeg su ti toboznji mistici zaljubljeni nije drugo doli proizvod njihove poremecene maste
Ta prividna duhovnost ocito je postajala problem. Kad se od pocetnika trazi da prekinu svu "vanjsku" dusevnu aktivnost, oni ne znaju sto znaci "unutarnji" rad, pa ga "obavljaju" lose. Jer okrecu svoj tjelesni um unutar svojih tijela, sto je neprirodno, i napinju se da duhovno gledaju tjelesnim ocima. Oni gledaju u prazno, izgledaju rastrojeno, cuce "poput tupavih ovaca" i naginju glavu na jednu stranu kao da imaju crva u uhu.Ali "unutarnjost" se postize samo
disciplinom "zaboravljanja"
Zbog toga autor ne savjetuje uceniku da trazi Boga u sebi, i dodaje "Ne zelim ni da budes izvan ili iznad, iza ili pored sebe" Kad ucenik ojadeno pita "Gdje onda da budem? Prema vama, trebao bih biti nigdje! Autor odgovara "Upravo nigdje zelim da budes" Jer kad si tjelesno "nigdje", duhovno si "svagdje". Nepostoje rijeci kojima bi se opisala ta vrsta ljubavi.
Zato ostavi to "svagdje" i "sve" radi "nigdje" i "nista". Nema veze sto ne mozes dokuciti to nista, jer ga ljubim utoliko vise.Ono je toliko vrijedno u sebi samom da mu nikakvo misljenje ne moze odati puno priznanje. To "nista" moze izgledati kao tama, ali ono je zapravo "silno duhovno svjetlo koje zasljepljuje dusu koja ga dozivljava "
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Samospoznaja ili pak samo mala kap Spoznaje u moru Spoznaja koje svojim talasima miluju Nebo na Zemlji...u centru je svakog Srca ,u dubini svake duše...
Iz centra srca raste kompas ,a slobodu i želju izražaja vlastitog potencijala pokazuju nam njegove kazaljke...
Mi smo ti koji im viruju il neviruju,a to je proporcionalno sa visinom frekvencije u osjećanju
Slobode....

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Mislim da uglavnom imamo veliku sreću ne naći se u sudbonosnoj situaciji gdje se postavlja pitanje moj ili tuđi život.
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Mislim da uglavnom imamo veliku sreću ne naći se u sudbonosnoj situaciji gdje se postavlja pitanje moj ili tuđi život.
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Odmah ću reći za sebe: ja sam slobodan čovek...............
ali apsolutna sloboda ne postoji, niti može postojati. Mi smo duhovno zavisni od naših misli, ideja, planova, našeg karaktera, pretenzija ka sutrašnjici i afinitete u suprotnosti sa animozitetima prema svemu i svačemu...
ne možemo biti apsolutno slobodni dok pokušavamo da ostvarimo ono što smatramo bitnim u nasšem životu, bilo da je to vezano za nas lično, ili naše bližnje. U krajnjem smislu, apsolutna sloboda može doći nakon apsolutne ostvarenosti, a ja smatram da je ovaj život previše ograničen, pa i previše kratak da bi se to moglo postići u celini.
O slobodi tela, i zajedno sa duhom, kao celovitosti bića, previše bi se moglo reći, a mnogo toga je već rečeno tokom istorije.
Svima vam želim slobodu duha, jer svi se rađamo slobodni, i umiremo slobodni, samo nam se u tom međuvremenu pojave određene sputanosti slobode u najužem smislu apsolutnosti....
dok mislimo, bićemo i slobodni i neslobodni, i to je istovremeno i zasluga i cena razuma..........
Procitao sam ovo... i ne verujem da sam ja pisao...
mnogo price. Premnogo.
Posle 8 godina promenio sam misljenje.
NISAM SLOBODAN!
Dokle god sam ovde... na ovoj planeti, ne mogu biti slobodan.
ako zavisim od nekoga ili necega... bilo to hrana koju moram jesti ili ono sto moram udisati... ili ono sto moram ciniti da bih ziveo ili preziveo.. a narocito dok cinim ono sto moram ciniti da bih bio covek ... a ne greska u vremenu i prostoru - JA NISAM NITI MOGU BITI SLOBODAN.

I na kraju.. STA JE SLOBODA?
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