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Nepročitano 09-11-11, 00:27   #21
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Kad se vratite sebi,opraštanje je lako.

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pa sta je rjesenje?? kako onda da oprostimo i drugima i sebi??

Fantazy kaze prihvatiti stvarnost, ja znam sto je stvarnost ali kako da je prihvatim? ubjedjujem se i znam ali opet se borim protiv toga i ne prihvatam...

Nakon tri godine dumanja, pljusne te neki odgovor o samoj sebi i ne možeš vjerovati da si takav, da cijelo vrijeme želiš i ideš k tome da nekoga svjesno povrijediš, a neprestano ubjeđuješ sebe kako si dobrica i kako nikome ne želiš zlo.

Pod okriljem velike ljubavi, velike podudarnosti, godinama mučiš sebe i osobu pored sebe. Želiš joj sve najbolje, voliš je, ne možeš disati bez nje...a onda se toj osobi desi nešto loše i ti osjetiš strahovitu sreću i olakšanje. I jednostavno od silnog zadovoljstva ne možeš se okrivljavati za neprimjerenu reakciju za tuđu nesreću ( i to ne bilo čiju, nego nesreću osobe do koje vam je stalo).
Eto tako nas situacije uče da vidimo stvarnost koju zamaskiramo sasvim drugim predznakom.
Misliš li da sam ponosna na ovu svoju reakciju? Nisam. Ni malo. Ali čemu se boriti protiv nje, kad me je spoznaja o njoj oslobodila.
Lucero mi je jednom davno rekla da vjerovatno, vezano za tu situaciju, moram nešto odraditi i zato ne mogu rješiti nerješen odnos. I sad iako ja nisam uzrok tog događaja, nego samo svjedok...ja se osjećam dobro.
Ono što sam htjela reći je da sumnjam da zbilja bilo ko od nas vidi stvarnost, samo njene fragmente (jer nisam primjetila da bilo tko tko ovdje aktivnije tipka "sjedi dovoljno visoko" da bi je vidio). Vidimo dakle samo njene fragmente, pa iz toga proizilazi da jako malo znamo o istini i svrsi i to je jedina stvarnost koju ne trebamo prihvatiti mi, nego naš dragi ego.

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Nije direktno povezano s temom,ali je itekako direktno povezano s povratkom sebi,pa obratite pozornost na meditaciju i ostalo.
Kad se vratite sebi,opraštanje je lako.

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Vidimo dakle samo njene fragmente, pa iz toga proizilazi da jako malo znamo o istini i svrsi i to je jedina stvarnost koju ne trebamo prihvatiti mi, nego naš dragi ego.

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Uvijek se i radi o egu. Čim više osvijestiš taj ego (mislim na njegovu karakteristiku širenja u tuđa polja),više si ti ti i više si svjestan istine i svrhe.Da bi postali mi,treba otpustiti mnoge "stvari",na tome se može svjesno raditi na nivou misli,riječi i djela "opominjanjem" sebe,a to je itekako potpomognuto meditacijom i drugim načinima smirivanja našeg sistema.Ovo sad možda zvuči kao često ponovljena filozofija,ali je jako daleko od toga.

Da citiram:

"Nitko ne mora ići nikuda.Svi smo već tamo,samo kad bi to znali.Tamo se ne odlazi.Tamo dolazi k nama.Ili bolje,tamo je zapravo ovdje.
Kada bih znao tko sam,prestao bih se ponašati kao onaj za koga se smatram,a kada bih se prestao ponašati kao onaj za koga se smatram,znao bih tko sam."


Jedno pitanje-što stvarno radiš da bi našla sebe i tako dobila odgovore? Ovdje mislim na konkretne postupke,osim samog razmišljanja.


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Što se mene tiče,možemo napraviti neku radionicu,recimo kad dođem u Zg.Skupimo se i idemo raditi. Ili konferencijom preko skypa,jer bi mi jednostavno previše vremena oduzelo "jedan na jedan",stvarno ne mogu stići uz tretmane,razgovore i objašnjenja vezano za tretmane,orgonite,sina i kućne obaveze prije svega,i malo "rada i na sebi" usput.


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Jedno pitanje-što stvarno radiš da bi našla sebe i tako dobila odgovore? Ovdje mislim na konkretne postupke,osim samog razmišljanja.
Jel to meni pitanje?

Mislim da će svatko teško dati odgovor na to pitanje konkretno. Jer idući kroz život mi neprestano istražujemo pa onda primjenjujemo pa ponovno istražujemo pa primjenjujemo.




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Jel to meni pitanje?

Mislim da će svatko teško dati odgovor na to pitanje konkretno. Jer idući kroz život mi neprestano istražujemo pa onda primjenjujemo pa ponovno istražujemo pa primjenjujemo.
Da da,na tebe sam mislila.

Upravo suprotno,odgovor je jednostavan onda kad nešto konkretno poduzimamo.A onda dolaze i rezultati. Dakle,dokle god samo razmišljamo i razmišljajući analiziramo situacije na ne znam koje sve načine,možemo slobodno zaboraviti rezultate. Ajde nastavim kasnije,imam nešto hitno.


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Da da,na tebe sam mislila.

Upravo suprotno,odgovor je jednostavan onda kad nešto konkretno poduzimamo.A onda dolaze i rezultati. Dakle,dokle god samo razmišljamo i razmišljajući analiziramo situacije na ne znam koje sve načine,možemo slobodno zaboraviti rezultate. Ajde nastavim kasnije,imam nešto hitno.

rekla sam:
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rekla sam:
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Ok.Što konkretno radiš na smirivanju svog energetskog sustava?
Meditacija,direktni rad na čakrama na neki način-vizualizacijom recimo,sungazing,korištenje frekvencija boja i/ili tonova,promjena prehrane,čitanje,kristali,aformacije,boravak u prirodi i uzemljenje,ostalo što mi sad ne pada na pamet?


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Ok.Što konkretno radiš na smirivanju svog energetskog sustava?
Lucero , nemoj tako zar ne vidis potpis od fantazy.


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