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Nepročitano 16-03-12, 23:27   #21
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znam jednog koji je šetao u japankama i nije mu ništa bilo

kupaju se usred zime ,također bez posljedica

ne pokupe svi ljudi gripu usred epidemije,iako su bili u kontaktu sa oboljelima itd...
Da, ta nekolicina je iznimka koja potvrđuje pravilo.

Imamo preveliki broj dokaza tj. iskustva da neke stvari nisu isplative za isprobavat pa se stoga ne bavimo njima.
Naravno da će lijepota širine života svojevremeno pokazat i drugu stranu u nekim primjerima. To bi trebao biti poticaj za preispitivanje i konsolidiranje redova. Obično i jeste tračak sumnje u nečijoj duši koja kanalizira u jednom trenutku povijesnu stvar.

Ali, dok god šetanje usred zime u kratkim rukavima ostaje bez posljedica u rijetkim slučajevima (u globalnom smislu), mi se držimo metode "najizglednijeg" a usput možemo pričati o slučajevima koji trenutno spadaju u "zanimljivosti".

Uostalom, vrlo lagano se mogu provjeriti ovakve stvari.
Dovoljno je da probaš.


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Nepročitano 16-03-12, 23:45   #22
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Ovisi kako pripremiš duh. Gospodari elemenata podnose i vatru i led. "Slučajevi" nisu pravilo ali ukazuju na nepoznatu zakonitost.
Postoji granica unutar koje duh može mijenjati stvari.
Duh zapravo ne mijenja stvari već samo koristi mehanizme koji mu dozvoljavaju djelovat unutar sustava i mijenjati forme.

Ali, čovjek toliko malo zna o standarnom poretku stvari i mogućnostima a kad se susretne sa tim mogućnostima, počne maštati o nekakvim potpuno imaginarno-nepostojećim pravilima.
Pojednostavljeno rečeno, otkriće da možeš izliječiti tešku bolest u sebi za koju liječnici nemaju lijeka ne znači da isto tako možeš izmisliti krila koja će ti izrast pa da svakodnevno letiš.
Mehanizmi imaju svoj poredak i otisak svakog bića veže za sebe okvir primjenjivih principa.
Čovjek nikad nije nečovjek.
Nečovjek nije čovjek.
Tako i principi čovjeka nikad nisu principi nečovjeka i obrnuto.
Svaka stvar funkcionira na svoj način koji joj savršeno pristaje kao kotačić u beskrajnoj mreži kotačića, osebujnih mikro-mehanizama koji čine tijelo makro-mehanizma.


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Nepročitano 17-03-12, 00:13   #23
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Postoji li nešto izvan duhovnosti?

Tijelo određuje u kojem će pravcu duh ići.
Tijelo uvijek određuje kamo će duh završiti jer tjelesnim osjetilima moramo odgovarati.

Nedostatak duha govori o manjkavosti sebe. Govori o svojim nedostacima. Prepoznaje svoje stanje.

Punina duha govori o cijelovitosti sebe. Prepoznaje sve što ga čini cijelovitim.
Punina ništa ne isključuje.
Duh odlučuje kamo će tijelo ići. Impuls kreće iz nematerijalnog u materijalno, misao će inicirati pokret.

Npr. "Kako na nebu, tako i na zemlji", vrijedi i obrnuto, međutim do prve promjene dolazi na astralu, potom se ista preslikava u materiju, a duh je taj koji može korespondirati s astralom, ne tijelo.
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to su sve samo slojevi "tijela".. manifestnog..

duh ne odlucuje nista..


Uistinu, Bog je tako ljubio svijet te je dao svoga Sina Jedinorođenca da nijedan koji u njega vjeruje ne propadne, nego da ima život vječni.
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Postoji granica unutar koje duh može mijenjati stvari.
Duh zapravo ne mijenja stvari već samo koristi mehanizme koji mu dozvoljavaju djelovat unutar sustava i mijenjati forme.

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Da. Krajnja forma je materijalno tijelo dakako.No duh-duša nije ro tijelu imateriji...bar kad tijelo funkcionalno umre. Duh može steći slobodu nebiti više vezan za tijelo,ne vraćati se u tijelo. Mi to često vjebamo kroz "odsutnost" i meditaciju...to je važno.

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to su sve samo slojevi "tijela".. manifestnog..

duh ne odlucuje nista..
Recimo obrnuto a da nas puno ne košta; duh uvjek odlučuje jer on djeluje kroz naše misli svijest ali duh nije moćan i svemoguć...zarobljen je. Silom Duha duh je povezan sa slojevima naših finijih tijela i tako je "jedno" sa tijelom.

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Duh odlučuje kamo će tijelo ići. Impuls kreće iz nematerijalnog u materijalno, misao će inicirati pokret.

Npr. "Kako na nebu, tako i na zemlji", vrijedi i obrnuto, međutim do prve promjene dolazi na astralu, potom se ista preslikava u materiju, a duh je taj koji može korespondirati s astralom, ne tijelo.
Kakave veze astral ima s duhovnim ?

Kakve veze nematerijalno ima s duhovnim ?

Duh je već 'tamo' on nigdje ne treba
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ocito bi bilo dobro definitrat prvo sto znaci duh, dusa, astralno tijelo, energetsko tijelo, fizicko..

duh nije nista.. a ako je nesto nije vise duh.. paradoksalno yeh..

put od 100 godina.. ili bilijardu.. u dusi.. ili u tijelu.. je samo put.. do jedinstva.. do izvora.. sve sto put radi a nije apsolut je manifestni fenomen.. a ono sto je manifestni fenomen je fragment.. fragmenti imaju tendenciju poput zbunjenih puzeva putovati kuci, dok se od nje u biti nikada nisu ni rastali

dakle sada ste sve sto ste ikada bili.. i sve sto cete ikada biti.. potrebno je samo to i prepoznati

istodobno i na putu.. i na cilju..


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Recimo obrnuto a da nas puno ne košta; duh uvjek odlučuje jer on djeluje kroz naše misli svijest ali duh nije moćan i svemoguć...zarobljen je. Silom Duha duh je povezan sa slojevima naših finijih tijela i tako je "jedno" sa tijelom.
umjesto riječi duh, upotrijebio bih duša...

a složio bih se sa Uoo-om da Duh ne odlučuje ništa...niti je zarobljen...

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