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Nepročitano 06-11-12, 21:54   #21
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Nekoć davno sam posudio knjigu "Deterministički kaos", mislim da se tip preziva Asimov. Ispostavilo se da mi nadobudnost nije pomogla tom zalogaju.
Sad bi mogao još jednom probat knjigom koju spominješ.


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Nekoć davno sam posudio knjigu "Deterministički kaos", mislim da se tip preziva Asimov. Ispostavilo se da mi nadobudnost nije pomogla tom zalogaju.
Sad bi mogao još jednom probat knjigom koju spominješ.
Nije možda naš prof. Paar u pitanju? Naslov je jako interesantan (kako determinizirati kaos?!)

Asimov je SF pisac.. ali jako zanimljiv lik.
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Nije možda naš prof. Paar u pitanju? Naslov je jako interesantan (kako determinizirati kaos?!)

Asimov je SF pisac.. ali jako zanimljiv lik.
Nije naš sigurno.
Rusko (meni liči) prezime. Je, to je nešto što neki umovi mogu razumijet i argumentirat a i možda dokaz da su popularne usvojene navike razmišljanja čisti bullshit jer se baziraju na nećem što na kraju priče nema veze sa onime što se stvarno događa.


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Vidjeh temu pa da kažem svoje iskustvo. Razgovori s Bogom prvi dio je knjiga koja mi je promijenila život. Definitivno. Sad je već jaaako puno prošlo od kad sam ju čitao prvi put. Nakon dvije tri godine sam počeo ponovno čitati no nije mi tako "svijetlila". Dao sam je na čitanje frendu koji je u međuvremenu ispao iz mog života pa nikak da je vratim nazad... Morat ću otići po nju.
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Vidjeh temu pa da kažem svoje iskustvo. Razgovori s Bogom prvi dio je knjiga koja mi je promijenila život. Definitivno. Sad je već jaaako puno prošlo od kad sam ju čitao prvi put. Nakon dvije tri godine sam počeo ponovno čitati no nije mi tako "svijetlila". Dao sam je na čitanje frendu koji je u međuvremenu ispao iz mog života pa nikak da je vratim nazad... Morat ću otići po nju.
I ja sam zabilježila nekoliko pasusa iz nje.Nekoliko najvažnijih od svih onih koji mi služe.


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Nije naš sigurno.
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Ma uopće je smiješan pojam teorija Kaosa, ne možeš teoretizirati o nečemu što nema teorije... pa je teoriji kaosa dodana teorija složenosti. I po nekoj "matematici" se po teoriji kaosa jednostavni sustavi mogu ponašati složeno, a po teoriji složenosti se u složenim sustavima može javiti jednostavno ponašanje. To bi bilo (kao) determiniranje kaosa. Po meni.. ti umovi mlate žestoko, koliko god to dokazali matematikom.

Poznata mi je magija Kaosa i ona prilično dobro funkcionira, međutim, kako je kaos van teorija, uzročno-posljedične veze.. nemaju veze.
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Sad ste me navukli s tim kaosom ... morat ću se dohvatiti te Stewartove knjige.

Onako na prvu, meni sam pojam zvuči kontradiktorno. Smatram da kaos na svijetu uopće kao takav ne postoji. Sve ima neku svrhu i smisao i sve ima neku svoju logiku i geometrijsku/matematičku preciznost, čak i ako je ona van naše trenutne spoznaje.


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Sad ste me navukli s tim kaosom ... morat ću se dohvatiti te Stewartove knjige.

Onako na prvu, meni sam pojam zvuči kontradiktorno. Smatram da kaos na svijetu uopće kao takav ne postoji. Sve ima neku svrhu i smisao i sve ima neku svoju logiku i geometrijsku/matematičku preciznost, čak i ako je ona van naše trenutne spoznaje.
Ima tu nešto u tom što govoriš. Serija zakon brojeva mi je dala misliti o tome. Zapravo kaos nazivamo onim što ne možemo sagledati u potpunosti i shvatiti način funkcioniranja... ali još je jedna po meni karakteristika kaosa... da nema očekivani rezultat. Hm, ili ga mi kao promatrači opet ne možemo vidjeti.
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smijesno je kako jednodimenzionalni um pokusava svesti multidimenzionalno znanje na svoju plosnu razinu..

nesto kao kada slikar pokusa uhvatiti krajolik na platno.. zbilja ima talentiranih i vjestih sa kistom.. jedini problem je sto se nitko jos nije okupao u naslikanom jezeru


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smijesno je kako jednodimenzionalni um pokusava svesti multidimenzionalno znanje na svoju plosnu razinu..

nesto kao kada slikar pokusa uhvatiti krajolik na platno.. zbilja ima talentiranih i vjestih sa kistom.. jedini problem je sto se nitko jos nije okupao u naslikanom jezeru
Koliko god to na kraju možda bilo nevažno malo ipak se tim pokušajima napreduje. Kada se prestane tragati ili se nešto shvati kao apsolutna istina tada se prestane napredovati.
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