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Nepročitano 21-08-12, 13:13   #21
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Paradoks... desi se... dakle nikako
Znači, jednostavno je biti jednostavan.......???
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Jednostavnost nije određena načinom života već pristupom životu. U kojim god okolnostima bili
Pa evo, časne i svećenici pristupaju životu na taj način..........jesu li te osobe jednostavne?
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Znači, jednostavno je biti jednostavan.......???
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Pa evo, časne i svećenici pristupaju životu na taj način..........jesu li te osobe jednostavne?
Nemam pojma. Neki jesu neki nisu.
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Što više potreba imaš to moraš biti snalažljiviji u njihovom zadovoljavanju. Potreba za potrebom...jedna ne može biti zadovoljena ako nisu i ostale....i tako poput narkomana trčiš za svakodnevnom dozom fiksa da bi se ok osjećao.
Bilo bi divno kad bi taj cijeli proces bio jednostavan ali previše toga uključuje da bi po svim tim poljima bio uspješan, miran i sretan.
Tu jednostavnosti nema.


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Što više potreba imaš to moraš biti snalažljiviji u njihovom zadovoljavanju. Potreba za potrebom...jedna ne može biti zadovoljena ako nisu i ostale....i tako poput narkomana trčiš za svakodnevnom dozom fiksa da bi se ok osjećao.
Bilo bi divno kad bi taj cijeli proces bio jednostavan ali previše toga uključuje da bi po svim tim poljima bio uspješan, miran i sretan.
Tu jednostavnosti nema.
Zato u samostanu imaš dnevni raspored i na sve stigneš na vrijeme. Nema žurbe
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Zato u samostanu imaš dnevni raspored i na sve stigneš na vrijeme. Nema žurbe
Da, čak stignu na igru sa malim dječacima.

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Simona, imam dojam da si dala dobar hint.. glede "izolacije". Časne sestre koje poznajem su zbilja jednostavne i jako drage.

I ljudi koji žive malo zabitije (ne mislim ovo s nikakvim negativnim konotacijama), jesu jednostavni. Da li je to zato što nemaju previše dodira s dobrobitima (hehe) globalizacije, pa ne znaju što bi još mogli željeti i nisu zaražani konzumentnim duhom. Ili jednostavno nisu toliko "ometani" kao mi koji nastojimo biti u toku sa svakom glupošću koju ćemo nazvati mainstream i željeti je samo zato što nam se čini da izgleda lijepo i ugodno na nekome drugome.
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Simona, imam dojam da si dala dobar hint.. glede "izolacije". Časne sestre koje poznajem su zbilja jednostavne i jako drage.

I ljudi koji žive malo zabitije (ne mislim ovo s nikakvim negativnim konotacijama), jesu jednostavni. Da li je to zato što nemaju previše dodira s dobrobitima (hehe) globalizacije, pa ne znaju što bi još mogli željeti i nisu zaražani konzumentnim duhom. Ili jednostavno nisu toliko "ometani" kao mi koji nastojimo biti u toku sa svakom glupošću koju ćemo nazvati mainstream i željeti je samo zato što nam se čini da izgleda lijepo i ugodno na nekome drugome.

naslov teme sugerira da je teško biti jednostavna.
Pa, zapravo me zanima kako vi prepoznajete jednostavne osobe, po čemu?
Evo, kažeš da su časne koje ti poznaješ jednostavne, što za tebe znači ta jednostavnost?

I uopće, što je to jednostavnost?
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I uopće, što je to jednostavnost?
Jednostavnost je izraz, riječ, sinonim, fraza koja je u biti izumljena da bi naglasila složenost.
Samo tako se, a nije još uvijek potrebno mijenjati jer jako dobro djeluje, lako može naglasiti koliko je nešto "složeno" usporedivo s "jednostavnim".
U prijevodu, oderati nekoga po džepu (čitaj jednostavno) i još ga k tome uvjeriti da je to tako moralo biti jer drugačije ne ide jer nedaj bože goreg (u daljnjem tekstu - složeno) da se primjeni na, zasigurno, propast svih nas....
A "složeno" je nešto što je nastalo od riječi "slaženo" i zapravo je vrlo "jednostavno" izvedeno da to ljudi ne vide jer očekuju nešto "složeno" i pre - "jednostavno" je da bi bilo istinito!
Istinito pak znači... ma nekom drugom prilikom.


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Sad ću ja malo biti 'đavolja odvjetnica'....zašto se jednostavnom (ili onome kako mi to shvaćamo) pridaju 'pozitivne' konotacije...a komplicirano je nešto 'negativno'....iako shvaćam što se želi reći...ali eto, došlo mi da malo to preokrenem

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Pa, zapravo me zanima kako vi prepoznajete jednostavne osobe, po čemu?
Osobe za koje bih ja rekla da su 'jednostavne'...imaju neku 'lakoću' življenja..'propusnost'..poznaju sebe (koliko je to moguće)...ne uzimaju sebe ..niti druge..preozbiljno...''zaigrane'' su..
Neke od stvari koje su mi bile prve asocijacije

Ali da,to bi im bilo nešto zajedničko...bez obzira na neke vanjske stvari..za neke bi se čak moglo reći da imaju 'komplicirani' životni stil...
Rekla bih da možda jednostavan životni stil često poistovjetimo sa jednostavnošću osobe...


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