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Nepročitano 19-02-13, 10:56   #31
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Ovisi kako definiraš "sebičnost".
Kao najdivniju pojavu i mogućnost koju se može koristiti.


...ako tvoj brod ne pristaje u luci ti doplivaj do njega...



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Da. Točno tako...

Pro googlajte i naći čete dokaze da su Čiril i Metod Bili Veliki Masoni... zašto su nam uzeli jezik????



Slika P.T. Kako su magovi konstruirali stolar mit
Lijepo gledi u Jeruzalem i na livadu di je raspičen neki kriminalac koga su brača pastirili koristili za lightmotiv kako fatati muve.
Dobra ideja haaaaaaaaaa?
ko bi reka da su ljudi nekada bili toliko maštoviti.....da nama ukradu maštovitost.


Isto kao i darwin pacelzus hipokrat, ali oni sada nisu tema....
Kakvi sad masoni, bakraci i kakve veze ima sa temom? Oli sam proglupio i ne kuzim poantu

Btv Ćiril i Metod? Pa masoni nisu bili niti u planu u to vrijeme, nastaju u 17 st. I sto je Veliki Mason uopce? Kako su nam uzeli jezik?
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glup i poslušan?
Naprotiv. Masonerija je nastala kao otpor konzervativizmu i prvenstveno crkvi te uz snaznu promociju upravo onih etickih normi koje su danas standard zapada - individualne slobode, ljudska prava, humanizam isl.

Za clanostvo je uvjet da si muskarac, ugledan (recimo bilo kakav spor sa zakonom te automatski iskljucuje), da trazis clanstvo (za razliku od uobicajenog misljenja nema vrbovanja, osoba sama mora pric), prihvacas Boga 8neovisno o religiji). To vrijedi doduse za masone loze nastale iz engleske masonerije, francuska dozvoljava i ateizam.

Kod nas je btv uvjet i da nisi na politickoj funkciji, ne primaju ljude na vlasti uopce
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Altruizam je kada vojnik (ili civil) pomogne drugom čoveku uprkos mogućnosti da sam pogine pri pokušaju ,onaj koji pomaže nema ništa od toga ...nemojmo sve svrstavati u 'sebičnost' ....obijašnjenje ,čovek poseduje tzv 'zrcalne neurone' koji nam daju mogućnost da se stavimo u situaciju osobe koja je unesrećena -to nas čini humanima ali ne i posebnima npr divlji psi će donositi hranu nepokretnom članu čopora i brojni primeri kako nesebično pomaganje postoji


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Malo me zaintrigirala ova tema, zaista altruizam bi mogao biti sebičnost?
Naime, često vidimo ljude koji pomažu drugima i uživaju u tome. Pitanje se postavlja, ako ta osoba nema kome pomagati kako će se osjećati? Može li ona biti zadovoljna sama sa sobom takva kakva jest i okolinom takvom kakva jest ili mora pošto poto tražiti "žrtvu" za pomaganje?
ako je nema bit će nesretna, dakle moglo bi se reći da je i takva osoba sebična obzirom da na taj način zadovoljava svoje potrebe za pomaganjem odnosno zadovoljava svoj ego. NIjemci to u psihologiji zovu "hilfs sindrom".
E sad, pretpostavljam da je razlika između pravog altruizma i onog sebičnog u tome da onaj pravi uživa i u zadovoljenju samoga sebe isto kao što uživa i drugome pružiti zadovoljstvo. U stvari, onaj tko je altruist na uštrb samoga sebe potpada pod patologiju, zar ne?
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Obzirom na poveznicu iz uvoda sa Biti vjeran (ljubljenoj) osobi + voljeti sebe? kratko bih se osvrnuo i na tu temu i rekao da je sasvim moguće voljeti i sebe i drugoga. Upravo u spomenutoj sebičnosti i jest bit, dakle kada drugome dajemo na račun svojih potreba zapravo isto tako i uzimamo jer se davanjerm dobro osjećamo. Pa bih rekao da se ne treba uznemiravati oko činjenice kada nekome nešto dajemo .
Sebe ne možemo nikada izgubiti, to je samo privremena transformacija, a ljubav kao takva će nam donijeti dugoročno puno više koristi od privremenog gubitka svoje individualnosti. Naposlijetku, što znači individualnost... samo podilaženje egu, zar ne?
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