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Nepročitano 19-04-13, 13:44   #51
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Hjooooj, o čem se mi tu razgovaramo umjesto da idemo van uživati u ovom prekrasnom suncu i uhvatimo se nekog korisnog posla, npr. činimo dobro umjesto da razglabamo o tome koga treba ili ne treba mrziti.

Do, or do not. Don't talk.

Ma mi pričamo o bezuvjetnoj ljubavi, draga Kud ćeš ljepše teme?




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Onaj koji je zao i radi zlo prvenstveno ne zna što je ljubav te tako i ne može ljubiti - niti svog zlog sudruga niti ikoga drugoga, pa ni zlo. Zato jer je to, plain and simple - oksimoron.
Da. Filozofija nam omogućava i tu "logiku". Moja je logika da postoji dvije vrste ljubavi,prema dobru i prema zlu, ljubav za vrlinu i ljubav za zlo i da su to različite vrste ljubavi i različiti osjećaji. "Moju" priču podupire životna praksa kao i neki mislioci i neke ideje u Bibliji i drugim svetim spisima...a tko tvoju ideju podupire slobodno ovdje iznesi.

O nekim stvarima duhovnost govori kao apsolutno a o nekima kao relativno. Ja bih rekao da je ljubav za vrlinu i dobro apsolutna ljubav a ljubav za zlo relativna ili iskrivljena ljubav.
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Udarac nogom u gu*icu je ponekad najveći znak ljubavi.

Jednako kao što glađenje po glavi, slanje pusica i ugađanje može biti znak kvarnosti, nezainteresiranosti, nebrige i neljubavi.

Ne draga. Kad ti netko zbog mržnje prema tebi priredi iskustvo "vritnjaka" tebi je učinio dobro, ali te i dalje mrzi, možda i više.
S ovim drugim se slažem, ukoliko je neiskreno, a tada se i onako isključuje ljubav.




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Zadani apsolutno je i bezuvjetno?

Svi smo mi čitali i slušali o ljubavi kao apsolutnoj kategoriji u njenom čistom stanju pa ujedno zamišljamo da je ona ujedno i bezuvjetna. Je vraga. Ja ukazujem na stvarnost i praksu i objave u svetim spisima koja se odupire tome. Ljubav nudi slobodu i griješiti ali je svjesna da grijeh i griješenje mora nestati...da je opredjeljenje za grijeh smrt i da Bog neće prsta maknuti za onog tko svjesno i prkosno nastoji djelovati protiv Njega,ljubavi i vrline....pa je On u svojoj veličanstvenosti i prokleo onog tko se je navezao na grijeh i protiv vrline riječima "Neka se griješnici i dalje ogrešuju".
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Svi smo mi čitali i slušali o ljubavi kao apsolutnoj kategoriji u njenom čistom stanju pa ujedno zamišljamo da je ona ujedno i bezuvjetna. Je vraga. Ja ukazujem na stvarnost i praksu i objave u svetim spisima koja se odupire tome. Ljubav nudi slobodu i griješiti ali je svjesna da grijeh i griješenje mora nestati...da je opredjeljenje za grijeh smrt i da Bog neće prsta maknuti za onog tko svjesno i prkosno nastoji djelovati protiv Njega,ljubavi i vrline....pa je On u svojoj veličanstvenosti i prokleo onog tko se je navezao na grijeh i protiv vrline riječima "Neka se griješnici i dalje ogrešuju".

Vidi Slape....jedno je živjeti u apsolutnoj ljubavi (bezuvjetnoj), a jedno je osjetiti bezuvjetnu ljubav.
Ovo prvo mogu samo sveci.
Ovo drugo mogu i "grešnici".




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Za dijete, npr?
Koliki su ljudi ne misleći na sebe pohrlili spasiti druge, potpuno nepoznate ljude, čak i životinje?
majčinska ljubav ne može biti primjer bezuvjetne ljubavi.
da bi majčinska ljubav postojala potreban je uvijet-dijete.
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Meni ovo izgleda kao jedan veeeliki čušpajz,

Zamislio sam sliku i ogladneo.
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Svi smo mi čitali i slušali o ljubavi kao apsolutnoj kategoriji u njenom čistom stanju pa ujedno zamišljamo da je ona ujedno i bezuvjetna. Je vraga. Ja ukazujem na stvarnost i praksu i objave u svetim spisima koja se odupire tome. Ljubav nudi slobodu i griješiti ali je svjesna da grijeh i griješenje mora nestati...da je opredjeljenje za grijeh smrt i da Bog neće prsta maknuti za onog tko svjesno i prkosno nastoji djelovati protiv Njega,ljubavi i vrline....pa je On u svojoj veličanstvenosti i prokleo onog tko se je navezao na grijeh i protiv vrline riječima "Neka se griješnici i dalje ogrešuju".
Pa što odma ne kažeš koji je smisao teme....a već se ponadah......
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Razmišljam se,... dali onda i Bog voli bezuvjetno?
A kaj se tu ima razmišljati, osjeti......i znati ćeš.
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