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Premisa joj je u stvari tocna, za zakljucak medjutim nisam siguran. Nije tvrdnja naime "Sai Baba violi mlade djevojke (u stvari puno mladje deckice) pa ne zna o prehrani nego": "Sai Baba je prevarant u gotovo svemu sto radi i u principu ne zna nista o nicemu, pa niti o prehrani".

Dakle: Sai Baba ne zna nista o prehrani, laze gdje stigne, tekstovi cak i koje sam potpisuje nisu autenticni, jos manje oni koji su "kanalizirani". Bezvrjedno, pa cak i stetno.
And that's just your oppinion.

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And that's just your oppinion.

S obzirom da je otvorena tema za pljuvanje po Babi, onda ne razumijem zašto se tamo ne očituješ kad si već zamoljen da ovu ne zagađuješ.
Nije opinion nego dokazano. AKo je nekome dokazano laziranje biografije, ako je dokazana kradja tudjih materijala i plagiranje, redakcije onoga sto sam kaze jer je u izvornom obliku preglupo itdizd jasno je da se radi o "projektu" sa ciljem skupljanja sljedbenika bez ikakve strucnosti u bilo cemu. Pola forumasa ovdje zna 1275x vise o prehrani od Sai Babe. O tome je pricao kao i o bilo cemu drugome - radi skupljanja sljedbenika i kao u svemu radi se o populistickom buckurisu o kojemu niti sam pojma nema vec se pabirci, kombinira, prilagodjava itd za sto bolju prodaju, sigurno ne "za istinu".

Ne ocitujem se tamo jer nema smisla niti potrebe za takvom temom, na svijetu ima masu prevaranata i nema smisla svakog ponaosob pljuvuckat pljuvanja radi. Ima smisla kad se njihove baljezgarije nastale radi manipulativnog skupljanja sljedbenika uzimaju preozbiljno :)


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Nije opinion nego dokazano. AKo je nekome dokazano laziranje biografije, ako je dokazana kradja tudjih materijala i plagiranje, redakcije onoga sto sam kaze jer je u izvornom obliku preglupo itdizd jasno je da se radi o "projektu" sa ciljem skupljanja sljedbenika bez ikakve strucnosti u bilo cemu. Pola forumasa ovdje zna 1275x vise o prehrani od Sai Babe. O tome je pricao kao i o bilo cemu drugome - radi skupljanja sljedbenika i kao u svemu radi se o populistickom buckurisu o kojemu niti sam pojma nema vec se pabirci, kombinira, prilagodjava itd za sto bolju prodaju, sigurno ne "za istinu".

Ne ocitujem se tamo jer nema smisla niti potrebe za takvom temom, na svijetu ima masu prevaranata i nema smisla svakog ponaosob pljuvuckat pljuvanja radi. Ima smisla kad se njihove baljezgarije nastale radi manipulativnog skupljanja sljedbenika uzimaju preozbiljno :)
Oprosti ali ono što sam poboldala je isključivo TVOJE mišljenje i ništa drugo. Ako nije tako, neće ti biti problem demantirati tako što ćeš ovdje iznijeti dokaze za svoje tvrdnje (ove koje sam podebljala). Ostalo nije predmet ove teme što ti uporno ne želiš shvatiti nego ti je iz nekog razloga osobno zadovoljstvo svaku temu napunit negativom i skretati svaku temu s kursa tamo gdje tebi teren odgovara.


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Ne, nije.

Kako rekoh postoje materijalni dokazi.

Postoje dokumenti sa drugim podacima od onih u njegovoj bio, postoje izvornici (dakle stariji od njega poput Gandhijevih ili Shivanandinih tekstova) koje je doslovno plagirao, postoji masa ljudi koja razumije i telugu i engleski (ja na zalost ne znam telugu) koja tvrdi da su engleski prevodi govora cesto cisceni od faktickih gluposti (tipa izbacivanja pogresnih astronomskih brojki isl) da se "Bog" ne osramoti.

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Ne, nije.

Kako rekoh postoje materijalni dokazi.

Postoje dokumenti sa drugim podacima od onih u njegovoj bio, postoje izvornici (dakle stariji od njega poput Gandhijevih ili Shivanandinih tekstova) koje je doslovno plagirao, postoji masa ljudi koja razumije i telugu i engleski (ja na zalost ne znam telugu) koja tvrdi da su engleski prevodi govora cesto cisceni od faktickih gluposti (tipa izbacivanja pogresnih astronomskih brojki isl) da se "Bog" ne osramoti.

Itditd.

Provjerive cinjenice, nema se tu sto mislit osim ako je netko toliki vjernik da se mora ubijati racionalizacijama i zabijanjima glave u pijesak.
Pa daaaaaaj više te materijalne dokaze da ih vidimo koji dokazuju da su konkretni tekstovi koje sam stavila netočni (nebitno je koje je njihovo porijeklo, nebitno je tko je njihov autor, milamajko - jel ja govorim turski ili što???)


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Pa daaaaaaj više te materijalne dokaze da ih vidimo koji dokazuju da su konkretni tekstovi koje sam stavila netočni (nebitno je koje je njihovo porijeklo, nebitno je tko je njihov autor, milamajko - jel ja govorim turski ili što???)
Ti bi se dokazivala oko tvrdnji poput te da je neka prehrana vezana ovako ili onako za duhovni napredak ili je grijeh? To su teoloske tvrdnje, sto se tu ima dokazivat, u startu su "prazne" i nedokazive.


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Evo jednog populističkog naslova: Sai Baba - istine i laži

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Ovako već može Jel se slažu i ostali?

I ajde malo spustite "koplja" da ne moramo opet da menjamo naslov

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Ti bi se dokazivala oko tvrdnji poput te da je neka prehrana vezana ovako ili onako za duhovni napredak ili je grijeh? To su teoloske tvrdnje, sto se tu ima dokazivat, u startu su "prazne" i nedokazive.
STo me podsjetilo - glede indije, duhovnosti i to - nikad se do zapadnjaka nije niti tvrdilo da je vege prehrana zdravija - od starih ajurvedskih tekstova do yogija poput Sivanande. Cak se u zdravstvene svrhe preporuca. To je uvijek prvenstevno pitanje etike ili religijske cistoce (sto je opet vezano uz drustvenu mobilnost kroz obdrzavanje tabua).

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