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Nepročitano 17-02-14, 15:39   #11
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Bilo gde, samo da ne budu pod "Terms" ili neki "Agreement" - to definitivno NIKO ne čita.
Slazem se sa Micom. to bi nekako trebalo da stoji kao podsetnik svima da cim dodju na alternativu,mogu to da procitaju a da ne traze po temama.
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Nije kritika, no, ovo su zapovjedi ili prisile.
To je točka odmah pod broj jedan (ne mislim pod broj jedan na tetu Jesam) gdje ti se govori što trebaš raditi...
Da se malo referiram na židovsku bibliju u kojoj nema 10 božjih zapovjedi nego 10 savjeta u smislu... ako si božji (ili hodaš s bogom) nečeš (imati potrebe) krasti umjesto kod nas kako stoji ne ukradi...


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Dali to uključuje i ovu njegovu doktrinu ili nju možemo bez straha sljepo sljediti?

Mislim.. Hoću li slijepo sljedeći tu ideologiju postati onaj koji je izbjegao sljepo slijeđenje ideologija?
Tj. dali ću slijepo sljedeći ovu doktrinu progledati za razliku od svih ostalih čije doktrine ih zasljepljuju? Držim se ove i ona garantira vid?
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Znači po tome ni misao "svi sistemi mišljenja su vodiči, oni nisu apsolutna istina." nije apsolutna istina? Znači moguće da je laž?

Eh ljudi moji..

I mene su vozale ovakve gluparije godinama.. ali apsolutna Istina postoji.. itekako.. i nije ovakva švrljarija gluparija koja uskače sama sebi u usta..
Daj mi reci Uoo, izravno, svojim riječima a ne citatima, koja stavka od tih 14 je loša, odnosno kontra Božjem nauku i Božjim zapovijedima? I ako takve ima, onda zbog čega točno?

Što je točno gluparija? Koja stavka?

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Nije kritika, no, ovo su zapovjedi ili prisile.
To je točka odmah pod broj jedan (ne mislim pod broj jedan na tetu Jesam) gdje ti se govori što trebaš raditi...

Da se malo referiram na židovsku bibliju u kojoj nema 10 božjih zapovjedi nego 10 savjeta u smislu... ako si božji (ili hodaš s bogom) nečeš (imati potrebe) krasti umjesto kod nas kako stoji ne ukradi...
Ja više nisam Broj Jedan - sad sam Šeldonica.

Ja ništa od toga nisam shvatila kao naredbu, više kao mudar savjet - ali zanimljivo je da neki to tako shvaćaju.

Da li je, kao u Židova, pisano kao preporuka ili ovako izravnije, radi se samo o formi - potpuno nebitno. Sve je ionako u nama. Ako nas nešto pogađa, vrijeđa ili uzrujava - prvo moramo u sebi potražiti razlog. I tamo ga i otkloniti.


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.. i nije ovakva švrljarija gluparija .

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Ovo je cisto cepidlacenje!! Dali zato sto je prihvatljivo kao jedno opste uputstvo za ljude sklone duhovnosti
ili zato sto to nije biblija.Moze covek da bude duhovan, a da nije nuzno hriscanin.Duhovnost dopire mnogo dalje i dublje nego je to samo hriscanstvo, samim tim sto je covek duhovno bice od svog postanka,a ne od nastanka hriscanstva..
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Ja više nisam Broj Jedan - sad sam Šeldonica.

Ja ništa od toga nisam shvatila kao naredbu, više kao mudar savjet - ali zanimljivo je da neki to tako shvaćaju.

Da li je, kao u Židova, pisano kao preporuka ili ovako izravnije, radi se samo o formi - potpuno nebitno. Sve je ionako u nama. Ako nas nešto pogađa, vrijeđa ili uzrujava - prvo moramo u sebi potražiti razlog. I tamo ga i otkloniti.
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Ne nužno niti automatski, ali svakako daje smjernice za kvalitetan i etičan život - život u kojem ne činimo drugima ono što ne želimo da drugi nama čine.



Daj mi reci Uoo, izravno, svojim riječima a ne citatima, koja stavka od tih 14 je loša, odnosno kontra Božjem nauku i Božjim zapovijedima? I ako takve ima, onda zbog čega točno?

Što je točno gluparija? Koja stavka?

Meni se čini da se tebi najviše ne sviđa ona prva jer uključuje samopreispitivanje, jel'da?
U 14 tocaka su i zakon i proroci, ali to vidis samo ako gledas KROZ ISUSA


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Ne nužno niti automatski, ali svakako daje smjernice za kvalitetan i etičan život - život u kojem ne činimo drugima ono što ne želimo da drugi nama čine.



Daj mi reci Uoo, izravno, svojim riječima a ne citatima, koja stavka od tih 14 je loša, odnosno kontra Božjem nauku i Božjim zapovijedima? I ako takve ima, onda zbog čega točno?

Što je točno gluparija? Koja stavka?

Meni se čini da se tebi najviše ne sviđa ona prva jer uključuje samopreispitivanje, jel'da?
Isus reče: 'Ja sam Put, i Istina, i Život - nitko ne dolazi k Ocu osim po meni.'
(Ivan 14:6)

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Tako je, valjda, govorio (i) Isus, jelte.
možda bi rekao ovako nešto onima koji svojim neznanjem vode i druge u propast..

Jao vama, pismoznanci i farizeji! Licemjeri! Zaključavate kraljevstvo nebesko pred ljudima; sami ne ulazite, a ne date ući ni onima koji bi htjeli.

Jao vama, pismoznanci i farizeji! Licemjeri! Obilazite morem i kopnom da pridobijete jednog sljedbenika. A kad ga pridobijete, promećete ga u sina paklenoga dvaput goreg od sebe.

Jao vama! Slijepe vođe! Govorite: 'Zakune li se tko Hramom, nije ništa. Ali ako se zakune hramskim zlatom, veže ga zakletva.' Budale i slijepci! Ta što je veće: zlato ili Hram što posvećuje zlato?

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