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Nepročitano 12-06-14, 21:09   #1
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Degmin post me inspirirao na otvaranje ove teme.

Dakle, dušu smatram indvidualnom tvorevinom koja se razvija zajedno s tijelom i umire s njim. Mislim da svaku reinkarnaciju prati nova duša.

S druge strane duh smatram božanskim, vječnim i besmrtnim.

Pojam duše se često veže uz ljude - ljudske duše, srodne duše, prodane duše, a pojam duha uz boga - sveti duh, duh gospodnji, božanski duh.

Ljudi često smatraju da se radi o sinonimima, mislim da to nije točno i da je razlika prilična.

Zanima me što vi mislite o tome. Možete se raspisati, samo vas molim bez c/p, a možete i redom odgovoriti na pitanja:

1. Kako vi definirate duh i dušu?

2. Koja je po vama, razlika?

3. Što mislite o "duševnim bolestima" ili o pojmovima poput "duhovitosti" ili "slobodnog duha"?

4. Jeste li svjesni samo svoje duše ili ste osjetili i tuđu?

5. Gdje u svome tijelu osjećate duh ili dušu?
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Nepročitano 13-06-14, 00:08   #2
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Evo ja ponvljam svoj post sa izgubljene teme ahaha:

dakle, zato , stoga.... po mojim saznanjima teoretskim, a koji imaju pragmatičnog smisla, tj može ih aspolutno svaka osoba samopromatranjem uočiti,
“Duša je putnik u vozilu materijalnog tijela, a inteligencija je vozač. Osjetila su konji, a um predstavlja uzde. Tako duša uživa ili ispašta u društvu uma i osjetila. To shvaćaju veliki mislioci.”
Um treba djelovati pod vodstvom inteligencije, ali je toliko snažan i tvrdoglav da često nadjača čak i inteligenciju, kao što jaka zaraza može nadjačati djelovanje lijeka. Takav snažan um se treba obuzdati...

svi se mi sastojimo od fizičkog tijela, određene energije, emocija i uma(raz-uma), jer čisti um je inteligencija a ne ovo stanje u kojem se mi nalazimo, i kako upravljamo sa konjima tako nam se i duša razvija, ali nadvladati um(razum) po mojem nekom slobodnom zaključku se može na dva načina, jedan je istočnjački da ga se usmjeri potpuno na Boga mantranjem, ili na Uoov način kako on govori istinskim pokajanjem i poniznošću i potpunim prepuštanjem Duhu Istine, ali i dalje u takvom stanju posjeduješ sva osjetila i koristiš se njima, tako da nije po meni dobro zanemariti dušu, i odmah skakti na teoretiziranje o DUHU, jer o dušimo očito još i možemo nešto isteoretizirati ali o DUHU je to ipak suvišno jer se riječima to teško opisuje što se tiče Duha Istine, kao što je i šeprtljavo koristit riječ Bog, što se više proučava sebe, jednostavno šutnja je dovoljna i samodostatna kad želimo koristit riječ Bog...paradoksalno malo, ali to je ta poniznost koja se eto u meni očituje da se ne usudim pridavati takvim stvarima olako ljudske epitete...također dušu je naše zapadno društvo tako iskomercijaliziralo i samim time umanjilo vrijednost, i skrenulo većini pažnju sa proućavanja tako jedne bitne komponente čovjeka koji sebe naziva vjernikom tj koji priznaje nekoga gore kao vrhovno "biće"...

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1.tesko mi je odvojit duh i dušu,lakše tijelo i dušu.
Smatram da se svi ti pojmovi kao listovi preklapaju i granice su nejasne,od osobe do osobe.
Duh bi mozda bio skup programa,mozda oni Jungovi arhetipovi koji formiraju nas,naravno na njih utječe sama duša koja koliko toliko uspije preprogramirat te neke arhetipove.
Duša bi bila ona beskrajna energetska jezgra u nama,ono mjesto iz kojeg,posebno u teškim momentima crpimo energiju,tj naša esencija,koja u ovom svijetu izgleda sitno,ali zapravo kada se usredotočimo na nju i razvijamo svjesnot o njoj se spozna prava masivnost.

3.duševne bolesti,to je jedno zanimljivo polje koje sam nedavno krenul malo istrazivati.
ali voli bi i ja cuti vaša misljenja o tome.

4.osjetim energiju ljudi pa ako se to moze vodit pod dušu,onda da.
Bas jucer na poslu sam se sreo s jednim,domaćim istarskim čovjekom,i odmah se vidi da je dobra osoba,kao i njegova obitelj,instant odlicna suradnja i energija pa mogu to vodit pod osjetit dušu.

5.sto se tice duhovnosti i svega,najprvo koje mi padne na pamet je solarni pleksus,mjesto iz kuda izvire energija cim pocinjem mislit na neke duhovne stvari ili kad krenem nesto duhovno radit.
Ako to prebacimo u star trek metaforu,solarni pleksus mi je Deflektor
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Duša je putnik u vozilu materijalnog tijela, a inteligencija je vozač. Osjetila su konji, a um predstavlja uzde. Tako duša uživa ili ispašta u društvu uma i osjetila. To shvaćaju veliki mislioci.”
Um treba djelovati pod vodstvom inteligencije, ali je toliko snažan i tvrdoglav da često nadjača čak i inteligenciju, kao što jaka zaraza može nadjačati djelovanje lijeka. Takav snažan um se treba obuzdati...
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Dušu osjećam u solarnom pleksusu a duh negdje izvan sebe.


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Što mislite, odakle dolazi kreativnost i duhovitost?
Iz duše ili iz duha?
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Mislim da kreativnost nema veze ni s jednim ni s drugim.

Ima ponajviše veze s tim da li smo se rodili s takvim talentom a onda i s tim koliko ga razvijamo, odnosno sa našim znanjem i trudom uloženim u daljnje obrazovanje. Čak i najjača predispozicija bez rada može se ugasiti i ostati neiskorištena.

Kod genija tipa Tesla ili drugih velikih inovatora, mislim da se radi o 'božanskom' nadahnuću - u tom slučaju mislim da je odgovoran duh.


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Što mislite, odakle dolazi kreativnost i duhovitost?
Iz duše ili iz duha?
Kreativnost i duhovitost jednostavno je.

Duh i duša su umne kategorizacije ...
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Kreativnost i duhovitost jednostavno je.

Duh i duša su umne kategorizacije ...
Zar ne obrnuto??

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“Duša je putnik u vozilu materijalnog tijela, a inteligencija je vozač. Osjetila su konji, a um predstavlja uzde. Tako duša uživa ili ispašta u društvu uma i osjetila. To shvaćaju veliki mislioci.”
Um treba djelovati pod vodstvom inteligencije, ali je toliko snažan i tvrdoglav da često nadjača čak i inteligenciju, kao što jaka zaraza može nadjačati djelovanje lijeka. Takav snažan um se treba obuzdati...
Mahešvarananda ?

Razmišljao sam si o duhu vs duša i zaključio da bi me mudrijanje zbunilo jer sam prezelen da jasno razdvojim te pojmove. Volim koristiti riječ duh(unikatnija stvar; ovozemaljskija) a duša mi je kao neštoviše univerzalnije, dakle obrnuto od opisa u uvodnom postu. Ne sječam se da sam igdje pročitao objašnjenje nekog uče o razlici između duha i duše.

Duh i duša su crnci i bijelci - neznam zašto sam ovo napisao, ograđujem se od sebe


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