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Nepročitano 19-06-14, 20:32   #1
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Na jednoj temi smo raspravljali o nužnosti patnje i boli u našim životima. Postoji pomisao da patnja, bol i muka općenito imaju prosvjetljujuću ulogu u našim životima i da u konačnici vode mudrosti.
Isto tako postoji pomisao da smo zadovoljniji i sretniji kada riješimo veću bol ili veću patnju.

Možemo se složiti da patnja, bol... zapravo, svi izazovi i sve što nas stavlja izvan naše comfort-zone, sve što nam stvara nelagodu - dolazi od sile koja je suprotna sili stvaranja. Da svo zlo dolazi od zle sile, zlog entiteta, lošeg bića kojeg poznajemo pod imenima Sotona, Lucifer...

Ime Lucifer označava svjetlonošu, Sotona je oponent čije nadvladavanje donosi u naše živote više svjetla... božanstva koja se s njima povezuju su grčki Prometej - sinonim hrabrosti i prkosa, te sumeranski Enki - bog koji je ljudima u Edenu dao znanje i spasio ih od potopa, a kako je simboliziran zmijom, automatski je poistovjećen sa Sotonom.

Sve ukazuje na to da postoji potreba za oponentskom silom, za pokretačem, nekim tko će nas stimulirati na pokret i djelovanje... krije li se iza toga napredak?

Možete li se složiti da smo u ovo iskustvo došli s točno određenom zadaćom i da nam se svi izazovi (sve što percipiramo kao loše u životu) događa samo da nas pomakne i motivira na djelovanje?

Što vi mislite?

Ili mislite da postoji vrag, biće kojem je najveći gušt pridobiti nas za sebe i odvojiti od božanstva koje nas je stvorilo?

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Mislim da su nam potrebne te nevolje i da nisu.
Gledano iz ove dimenzije,nama su potrebni ovakvi poticaji da nas pokrenu,da učinimo nešto,al gledano iz perspektive beskrajnosti,ovu igru nesreca i problema kao pokretačem nasih snaga vidim kao jos jednu uzaludnu iluziju.

Al jako zanimljiva tema...Sotona ne kao najvece zlo,nego kao jedna potrebna sila koja nas usmjerava.

Mislim da ne postoji zlo kao zlo,zvuci zastrasujuce i je,ali nekako imam filing da sama jezgra zla,ona najdublja razina je kao neko dijete koje se davno izgubilo i nezna vise za druge nego ove načine.
Sva zla izviru iz straha nakraju.
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Na jednoj temi smo raspravljali o nužnosti patnje i boli u našim životima. Postoji pomisao da patnja, bol i muka općenito imaju prosvjetljujuću ulogu u našim životima i da u konačnici vode mudrosti.
Isto tako postoji pomisao da smo zadovoljniji i sretniji kada riješimo veću bol ili veću patnju.

Možemo se složiti da patnja, bol... zapravo, svi izazovi i sve što nas stavlja izvan naše comfort-zone, sve što nam stvara nelagodu - dolazi od sile koja je suprotna sili stvaranja. Da svo zlo dolazi od zle sile, zlog entiteta, lošeg bića kojeg poznajemo pod imenima Sotona, Lucifer...

Ime Lucifer označava svjetlonošu, Sotona je oponent čije nadvladavanje donosi u naše živote više svjetla... božanstva koja se s njima povezuju su grčki Prometej - sinonim hrabrosti i prkosa, te sumeranski Enki - bog koji je ljudima u Edenu dao znanje i spasio ih od potopa, a kako je simboliziran zmijom, automatski je poistovjećen sa Sotonom.

Satan - (Sotona, Zena Boginja, suprotnost Oca Boga/Jupitera), Saturn.
Lucifer - (svjetla jutarnja zvijezda), Venera ili Sunce.
Prometej - Zeusov rodjak koji je covjeku zelio podariti vatru (tehnologiju)
Enki - Enlilov brat koji je zelio covjeku podariti znanje (tehnologiju). obojica Elohim(i).
zmija - kundalini, moze ici u oba smjera. Edenska ima smjer prema dolje, zato je covjek pao.

zbrckali smo sve i svasta u jedan pojam i povezali ga s raznim imenima koja imaju i razna druga znacenja.

Jupiter je bog, Saturn je vrag, zajedno su dva lica istog novcica.
Sunce je bog, Mjesec je vrag. svjest i podsvjest.
Sunce je i bog i vrag, davatelj i unistitelj zivota, svjetlo raja i vatra pakla. cestica i val.
itd itd... opcija koliko oces.


najgori covjekov izum je 0. dao je formu onome sto forme nema, oblikovao je i odlucio da je sve poteklo iz nje. kreirao je matematiku, stavio 0 u centar i izmislio + i -. stvorio je crnu rupu, stavio je u centar i zavrtio galaksiju oko nje. izmislio je simbole za brojeve, odnose medju njima i beskonacno ponavljanje.
...<-1(0!)<-9<-8<-7<-6<-5<-4<-3<-2<-1<0<1<2<3<4<5<6<7<8<9<1(0!)<...

kad bi imali za birati spasiti zivot 2 ljudi koje mrzite ili jednoj osobi koju volite koga bi izabrali? da imate birati izmedju 2 trule jabuke i 1 zdrave koju bi pojeli? da imate izbor pogledati 8 losih filmova i 1 dobar? da li je tada 1< od ostalih brojeva?
prezirem matematiku, njezinu hladnu objektivnost i odnose brojeva.
sto se mene tice matematika je zlo, a Pitagora (kazu da je on izmislio 0) vrag.

otisao u offtopic. naljutila me matematika i sad me boli glava


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Sve ukazuje na to da postoji potreba za oponentskom silom, za pokretačem, nekim tko će nas stimulirati na pokret i djelovanje... krije li se iza toga napredak?

Možete li se složiti da smo u ovo iskustvo došli s točno određenom zadaćom i da nam se svi izazovi (sve što percipiramo kao loše u životu) događa samo da nas pomakne i motivira na djelovanje?

Što vi mislite?
mislim da je jedna od mojih zadaca ukinut matematiku. ceterum censeo matematika esse delendam.


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Ili mislite da postoji vrag, biće kojem je najveći gušt pridobiti nas za sebe i odvojiti od božanstva koje nas je stvorilo?
kristova ima puno i bit ce ih jos vise. antikrist je samo jedan, onaj na vrhu piramide kojemu sluze oni na nizim stepenicama.
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Prezireš? No no...


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znam, znam.
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Mislim da su nam potrebne te nevolje i da nisu.
Gledano iz ove dimenzije,nama su potrebni ovakvi poticaji da nas pokrenu,da učinimo nešto,al gledano iz perspektive beskrajnosti,ovu igru nesreca i problema kao pokretačem nasih snaga vidim kao jos jednu uzaludnu iluziju.

Al jako zanimljiva tema...Sotona ne kao najvece zlo,nego kao jedna potrebna sila koja nas usmjerava.

Mislim da ne postoji zlo kao zlo,zvuci zastrasujuce i je,ali nekako imam filing da sama jezgra zla,ona najdublja razina je kao neko dijete koje se davno izgubilo i nezna vise za druge nego ove načine.
Sva zla izviru iz straha nakraju.
Glede postojanja dobra i zla - u ovom iskustvu i na ovoj razni svijesti zbilja opažamo te dvije krajnosti.
Što se tiče samih apsoluta, ne postoji aspolutno zlo, niti apsolutno dobro.
Kada bi postojalo apsolutno zlo, uništilo bi samo sebe.

Ja ne vjerujem u nužnost zla koje ljudsko biće može iskusiti, vjerujem da vrline i kvalitete možemo razviti i kroz ljubav, pažnju i nježnost - ali svaki sistem vrijedan proučavanja sugerira nekakvu nužnost zla. A i da ne sugerira, život mi ukazuje na činjenicu da je prepun izazova, a svaki izazov bez obzira na intenzitet nelagode nas izbacuje iz comfort zone i potiče na nekakvo djelovanje.
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prezirem matematiku, njezinu hladnu objektivnost i odnose brojeva.
sto se mene tice matematika je zlo, a Pitagora (kazu da je on izmislio 0) vrag.

otisao u offtopic. naljutila me matematika i sad me boli glava


mislim da je jedna od mojih zadaca ukinut matematiku. ceterum censeo matematika esse delendam.


Jesi proučavao simboliku broja 666?
Uzmeš sustav brojeva kojima se danas koristimo i ideš ga svesti na jednoznamenkasti broj.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1+2+3 4+5+6 7+8+9
=6 =15 =24

Ako ideš svesti 15 i 24 na jednoznamenkasti broj dobivaš broj 6 (1+5=6 i 2+4=6). I na kraju dobivaš: 6 6 6

Vrag je u brojevima.

Ako bismo pak broj 666 išli smanjiti na jednoznamenkasti došli bi do broja 9, a on označava mudrost. Pa možemo reći da je vrag u mudrosti ili nam ne štima matematika.
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Evo nešto zanimljivo na temu 666 i sotone.

Na početku je par minuta neki pjesmuljak pa to preskočite ako nemate strpljenja slušati ... ima i prijevod.


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