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Nepročitano 20-09-15, 18:55   #41
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To je moj odgovor Jesam!
OK - imaš potpuno pravo na svoje mišljenje.
Kao što i ja imam.
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Tebi je ovo sve igra i smiješno ti je. Uživaj i dalje i traži sebi neku drugu žrtvu!
Vidiš se kao žrtvu? Zašto?
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Jednako se divim majci sa djecom kao i ženi koja je odlučila ne rađati. Tu ne ubrajam one žene koje nisu imale priliku da rode ali su željele, već one koje su svjesno, sa svojim partnerom ili bez njega, odlučile ne donositi dijete na svijet. Uopće ne bih mogla osuđivati ni jednu ni drugu ženu!

ne smatram da je rodjenje djeteta sebičan čin, niti bih ulazila u filozofiju 'jeli itko pitao to dijete želi li biti rođeno'.Ne smatram također da žena koja odluči ne roditi, propušta nešto.


Ako si odlučila biti majka- budi dosljedna tome, budi balans. ako si odlučila ne rađati-također budi dosljedna tome.

Kada je u pozadini svega dosljednost i prihvaćanje odgovornosti za svoje odluke, onda je smisao pogođen- sa djetetom ili bez... svejedno je.

Jedina filozofija koja svih treba voditi u životu je 'Živi i umri bez kajanja'.


Da mi je bit plankton, pa da svitlin noću dok se oko mene kitovi koprcaju.



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Zanimljivo je kakve burne reakcije izaziva nečije jednostavno iznošenje stava i razmišljanja.

Ako sam čvrsto uvjerena u svoje stavove i imam formirano i utemeljeno mišljenje onda me ničiji suprotni stavovi ne mogu izbaciti iz cipela. Mogu reći da se s njima ne slažem ali tu priča završava. No, ako imalo sumnjam u vlastiti stav a nisam to u stanju sebi priznati, onda nastaje problem.

Mogu argumentirano raspravljati, ali emocionalni ispadi, vrijeđanje i durenje ... e, pa to mi je smiješno ... i nezrelo.

Qiqe je zapravo sve lijepo sažela.

S obzirom da je ovo tema Ne želim djecu, onda se ovdje izlažu stavovi zbog čega netko tako misli i u skladu s time su i moji upisi.
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Ispričavam se koga sam naljutila ili povredila ovih dana na ovoj temi...par vaših citata izbacilo me je iz takta poput posvajanja djece-zato sam i navela dom i sve ono što smo nas dvoje osobno proživljavali ovih 10 god.a tu se nije pojavila čista ljubav kako si ti Jesam napisala u svojem izlaganju za posvojenje djece.Uvjek će bit previranja oko temi ŽELIM ILI NEŽELIM DJECU...
Svako dobro sam napisala jer svima ovdje to i želim nisam ja baba roga ili sa pištoljem pucam po vama koji ne želite imati djecu,al trebalo mi je par dana da mi se emocije slegnu i ovo napišem hladne glave.Ajte bok
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Jednako se divim majci sa djecom kao i ženi koja je odlučila ne rađati. Tu ne ubrajam one žene koje nisu imale priliku da rode ali su željele, već one koje su svjesno, sa svojim partnerom ili bez njega, odlučile ne donositi dijete na svijet. Uopće ne bih mogla osuđivati ni jednu ni drugu ženu!

ne smatram da je rodjenje djeteta sebičan čin, niti bih ulazila u filozofiju 'jeli itko pitao to dijete želi li biti rođeno'.Ne smatram također da žena koja odluči ne roditi, propušta nešto.


Ako si odlučila biti majka- budi dosljedna tome, budi balans. ako si odlučila ne rađati-također budi dosljedna tome.

Kada je u pozadini svega dosljednost i prihvaćanje odgovornosti za svoje odluke, onda je smisao pogođen- sa djetetom ili bez... svejedno je.

Jedina filozofija koja svih treba voditi u životu je 'Živi i umri bez kajanja'.


Živi i pusti druge da žive.
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Pa ova tema je živnula!

Imala bih za dodati samo nešto: postoje životi kojima je svrha produljenje vrste i postoje neroditeljski životi kojima je svrha sasvim drugačija.

Ako vam je dan blagoslov života bez djece, nije li nekako logično iskoristiti tu slobodu i taj prostor za ostvarenje neke druge svrhe koju nije moguće ostvariti dok ste sputani roditeljskom ulogom?

da, znam da sam u istoj rečenici upotrijebila dva pojma koje mnogi ne mogu smisleno povezati i zbog kojih će me neki sada kamenovati...

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Ispričavam se koga sam naljutila ili povredila ovih dana na ovoj temi...par vaših citata izbacilo me je iz takta poput posvajanja djece-zato sam i navela dom i sve ono što smo nas dvoje osobno proživljavali ovih 10 god.a tu se nije pojavila čista ljubav kako si ti Jesam napisala u svojem izlaganju za posvojenje djece.Uvjek će bit previranja oko temi ŽELIM ILI NEŽELIM DJECU...
Ja tebe uopće ne razumijem ...

Koja je poanta ovoga što si napisala u kontekstu odgovora na moj upis?

Pa ja sam i napisala da bi ljudi koji žele djecu (a tvrde da je to iz čiste ljubavi) prvo trebali usvajati one već rođene a tek onda razmišljati o vlastitoj nejačadi. Kako si ti to shvatila Jang da si se tako uzrujala?
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... bez pristanka tog bića da bude rođeno - je po meni drskost i nepromišljenosti i neodgovornost -
Rekla bih da to biće nije samo pristalo biti rođeno, nego je to i odlučilo. Da nije, ne bi se spustilo u ovu dimenziju.

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Ja tebe uopće ne razumijem ...

Koja je poanta ovoga što si napisala u kontekstu odgovora na moj upis?

Pa ja sam i napisala da bi ljudi koji žele djecu (a tvrde da je to iz čiste ljubavi) prvo trebali usvajati one već rođene a tek onda razmišljati o vlastitoj nejačadi. Kako si ti to shvatila Jang da si se tako uzrujala?
Ali kako će usvajati kad im za to država ne daje zeleno svjetlo-gdje je tu onda čista ljubav???ajd mi sad pojasni zato i jesam napisala sve što smo prolazili po pitanju posvajanja...zašto i dan danas ima toliko male djece koje čekaju svoje roditelje pa gdje je tu onda čista ljubav???
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