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Nepročitano 22-09-14, 16:36   #71
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ukratko, mozak gledam kao sklop - prijemnik, odasiljac, procesor.
za osjecaje mislim da nastaju u razlicitim dijelovima tijela i da se od tamo odasilju do mozga koji ih obradjuje.
za dusu vjerujem da postoji i da je ona skup iskustava koje nosimo dalje kad se mehanika ugasi.
Ako se npr. rodiš sa moždanim defektom, tvoja vjerovanja mogu biti posve drugačija. Ne samo drugačija nego možeš biti nesposoban za logičnije razmišljanje od žlica = hrana.



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zasto mislis da u zecovom svijetu uopce postoji pojam "ne"?
vjerojatno postoji odbijanje i tuga, ali sumnjam da zeko misli ne radost i ne prihvacanje. radim veliku razliku izmedju zivotinja i ljudi, a jedna od osnovih razlika je upravo jezik.
Moja poanta je bila imaginacija. Jedino čovijek ima tu sposobnost.
Termin "radost" ne postoji kod zeca. Radost zajedno sa jedinstvenom moći imaginacije stvara koncept iz iskustava, zaključaka, predviđanja i apstraktnih simbola vezanih za kulturno naslijeđe. Za sve je to zaslužna imaginacija koja na svoj način pokušava stvorit razumne slike da uopće možemo imati nekakav odnos sa iskustvima.




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ne mrzi.
ne ubij.
ne siluj.
ne pljackaj.
ne lazi.
ne ...
Ovo je niz posve relativnih stvari.

1. Ne mrzi

Mržnja je u svojoj osnovi upozorenje da nešto ne štima. Ili radiš pogrešno pa uzrokuješ sebi probleme ili netko drugi prijeti tvojem opstanku pa trebaš nešto promijeniti da ukloniš prijetnju.

2. Ne ubij

Ideš sa svojom curom kampirat u šumu. Pojavi se medvjed i napadne tvoju curu. Zgrabi ju za nogu. Imaš nož, ili da pojednostavimo stvar, pištolj u ruksaku. Što ćeš učiniti?

3. Ne siluj

Lako je silovatelja dehumanizirat i po kratkom postupku strpat u kavez. Time smo riješili problem? Koliko je tih silovatelja znalo da je silovanje loše? Većina.
Struka puno mozga o procesu koji dovodi do toga. Taj proces je poniranje u ljudsku psihu koja je sve osim banaliziranog nizanja društvenih konvencija.

4. Ne pljačkaj

Zašto se danas većina stvari proizvodi u Kini?
Zato što je tamo radna snaga najjeftinija.
Zašto je najjeftinija? Zato što je vrijednost rada tamošnjeg čovjeka svedena na minimum.
Zašto se to dešava? Zato što Ti i Ja gledamo da kupimo što bolje za što manje novaca. Mi smo "nedužni" pljačkaši.

5. Ne laži

Hahaha..... Tanka je granica između jave i snova.


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i opet, imaginacija ce prvo vizualizirati pojam, a tek onda ga pobrisati. procitas - zamislis - izbrises - zamislis suprotnost.

recimo ne rijeci ne.
Ne razumijem.


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Termin "radost" ne postoji kod zeca. Radost zajedno sa jedinstvenom moći imaginacije stvara koncept iz iskustava, zaključaka, predviđanja i apstraktnih simbola vezanih za kulturno naslijeđe.
Kako znaš? Se sjećaš života u kojem si bio zec?


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Ovo je niz posve relativnih stvari.

1. Ne mrzi

Mržnja je u svojoj osnovi upozorenje da nešto ne štima. Ili radiš pogrešno pa uzrokuješ sebi probleme ili netko drugi prijeti tvojem opstanku pa trebaš nešto promijeniti da ukloniš prijetnju.

2. Ne ubij

Ideš sa svojom curom kampirat u šumu. Pojavi se medvjed i napadne tvoju curu. Zgrabi ju za nogu. Imaš nož, ili da pojednostavimo stvar, pištolj u ruksaku. Što ćeš učiniti?

3. Ne siluj

Lako je silovatelja dehumanizirat i po kratkom postupku strpat u kavez. Time smo riješili problem? Koliko je tih silovatelja znalo da je silovanje loše? Većina.
Struka puno mozga o procesu koji dovodi do toga. Taj proces je poniranje u ljudsku psihu koja je sve osim banaliziranog nizanja društvenih konvencija.

4. Ne pljačkaj

Zašto se danas većina stvari proizvodi u Kini?
Zato što je tamo radna snaga najjeftinija.
Zašto je najjeftinija? Zato što je vrijednost rada tamošnjeg čovjeka svedena na minimum.
Zašto se to dešava? Zato što Ti i Ja gledamo da kupimo što bolje za što manje novaca. Mi smo "nedužni" pljačkaši.

5. Ne laži

Hahaha..... Tanka je granica između jave i snova.

Ne razumijem.
Ne filozofiraj - tamo gdje filozofiranju nije mjesto. Jer, tada to nije ništa drugo nego izvrdavanje i savijanje istine prema svojim osobnim preferencijama.

Ja u ovim zapovijedima ne vidim ništa relativno.


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Kako znaš? Se sjećaš života u kojem si bio zec?
Kako znaš da nisi zec?



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Ne filozofiraj - tamo gdje filozofiranju nije mjesto. Jer, tada to nije ništa drugo nego izvrdavanje i savijanje istine prema svojim osobnim preferencijama.

Ja u ovim zapovijedima ne vidim ništa relativno.
Zaključak je da ja filozofiram jer ti ne vidiš.


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Zaključak je da ja filozofiram jer ti ne vidiš.
To je tvoj zaključak - jer ne želiš vidjeti.


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Nisam ja rekao da ne vidim ništa sporno.


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