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Nepročitano 21-09-15, 19:02   #1
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Zadani Kako bi trebalo biti?

Često čujem izraz "ljudi bi trebali…" ili "trebalo bi". I iz godine u godinu me sve više čudi.


Zna li itko doista kako bi trebalo biti?


Imamo borce za različite "vrijedne" ciljeve, koji smatraju da znaju kako bi "trebalo biti". Ali, zašto bi tako trebalo biti? I tko je doista dovoljno udaljen od pojedinačne perspektive, tko doista ima dovoljno širok i dalek uvid da bi znao kako bi trebalo biti (osim uzašlih učitelja)?



Zašto "bi trebalo" spasiti Zemlju? Zašto je izumiranje vrsta nešto što je potrebno oplakivati? Zašto je patnja nešto nad čime se užasavamo? Zašto bismo se trebali boriti protiv ... (umetni trenutačno najpopularnijeg neprijatelja)?



Ne događa li se sve što se odgađa upravo zato što je u tom trenutku potrebno da se dogodi?


Istina je da čovječanstvo ne postupa najinteligentnije, ali čovječanstvo je na svojem vlastitom putu. Tko zna kakav bi taj put "trebao biti" pa može suditi da ovaj nije dovoljno dobar?


Čovječanstvo kao cjelina je prosječno inteligentno. Njegov put i njegovo trenutačno stanje su odraz te činjenice.



I osobno mislim da je to sasvim u redu. Zapravo, bolje ne može biti. Drugačije ne bi trebalo biti.



Da može, bilo bi. Živimo u savršenom svijetu. Naša stvarnost savršeno odražava naše stanje svijesti i naše potrebe.


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Eh da. Pitanja koja si postavljam cijeli život. Ima li itko odgovore?

Ovdje smo, između ostalog, i zato da pokušamo naći odgovore na sva ta pitanja.

Ali, silno me smara takav svijet i igre bez granica. S obzirom da je očigledno jednom na planetu postojao i drugačiji život, drugačije društveno uređenje i drugačija svijest, onda je jasno da OVAKO ne mora biti.

Ne znam baš da živimo u savršenom svijetu. Bez obzira na moje individualno stanje i poimanje (ili bilo čije) koje se ne poklapa s trenutnom prevladavajućom paradigmom, nitko nije otok i nitko ne može biti sretan ako su mu bližnji nesretni i ako pate, pa mi je i ta teorija "sve je savršeno" sve gluplja.
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Često čujem izraz "ljudi bi trebali…" ili "trebalo bi". I iz godine u godinu me sve više čudi.


Zna li itko doista kako bi trebalo biti?


Imamo borce za različite "vrijedne" ciljeve, koji smatraju da znaju kako bi "trebalo biti". Ali, zašto bi tako trebalo biti? I tko je doista dovoljno udaljen od pojedinačne perspektive, tko doista ima dovoljno širok i dalek uvid da bi znao kako bi trebalo biti (osim uzašlih učitelja)?



Zašto "bi trebalo" spasiti Zemlju? Zašto je izumiranje vrsta nešto što je potrebno oplakivati? Zašto je patnja nešto nad čime se užasavamo? Zašto bismo se trebali boriti protiv ... (umetni trenutačno najpopularnijeg neprijatelja)?



Ne događa li se sve što se odgađa upravo zato što je u tom trenutku potrebno da se dogodi?


Istina je da čovječanstvo ne postupa najinteligentnije, ali čovječanstvo je na svojem vlastitom putu. Tko zna kakav bi taj put "trebao biti" pa može suditi da ovaj nije dovoljno dobar?


Čovječanstvo kao cjelina je prosječno inteligentno. Njegov put i njegovo trenutačno stanje su odraz te činjenice.



I osobno mislim da je to sasvim u redu. Zapravo, bolje ne može biti. Drugačije ne bi trebalo biti.



Da može, bilo bi. Živimo u savršenom svijetu. Naša stvarnost savršeno odražava naše stanje svijesti i naše potrebe.


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Eh da. Pitanja koja si postavljam cijeli život. Ima li itko odgovore?

Ovdje smo, između ostalog, i zato da pokušamo naći odgovore na sva ta pitanja.

Ali, silno me smara takav svijet i igre bez granica. S obzirom da je očigledno jednom na planetu postojao i drugačiji život, drugačije društveno uređenje i drugačija svijest, onda je jasno da OVAKO ne mora biti.

Ne znam baš da živimo u savršenom svijetu. Bez obzira na moje individualno stanje i poimanje (ili bilo čije) koje se ne poklapa s trenutnom prevladavajućom paradigmom, nitko nije otok i nitko ne može biti sretan ako su mu bližnji nesretni i ako pate, pa mi je i ta teorija "sve je savršeno" sve gluplja.
Ma baš...

Nekako ni meni više ništa od toga ne drži vodu (ako ikada i je...).

Na ovo BluPopino naslovno pitanje samo znam da ne znam odgovor, tj. nemam neku čistu sliku kako "bi trebalo".

Ali bome mi se čini da smo daleko od onoga kako bi (trebalo, jelte...).


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Upravo tako iako nije mi jasno di su uzašli učitelji
Pa, uzašli su u viša stanja svijesti. Proživjeli su uzašašće.
Zar nisu?

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Pa, uzašli su u viša stanja svijesti. Proživjeli su uzašašće.
Zar nisu?

A tko to zna

Za početak bi ljudi trebali biti svijesni sebe i svoje okoline
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