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Nepročitano 15-05-14, 11:58   #201
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Ograničenje na religiji zbog same škakljivosti teme...jer se obično na njoj javljaju problemi.


Znači, sva caka je u tome kako nasloviti temu?

Npr tema "Susret s Isusom - svjedočanstva ljudi". Trolanja nema jer se svi slažu, tj. svi komentari idu u prilog temi. Ili komentara nema.
Onda netko otvori temu "Susret s Isusom - svjedočanstva ljudi - rasprava" i tu isto nema trolanja jer je u naslovu teme omogućena rasprava. Ili ni to nije dopušteno?




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Nepročitano 15-05-14, 13:07   #204
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Znači, sva caka je u tome kako nasloviti temu?

Npr tema "Susret s Isusom - svjedočanstva ljudi". Trolanja nema jer se svi slažu, tj. svi komentari idu u prilog temi. Ili komentara nema.
Onda netko otvori temu "Susret s Isusom - svjedočanstva ljudi - rasprava" i tu isto nema trolanja jer je u naslovu teme omogućena rasprava. Ili ni to nije dopušteno?
U temi "Susret s Isusom - svjedočanstva ljudi" bit će prikazana ta svjedočanstva i svatko tko ima kakvih saznanja o svjedočanstvima, može ih tu iznijeti. No ovo je primjer vrlo uske teme, odnosno teme uskog raspona. U pravu si da će ta tema biti više kao blog.

No u temi "Da li je Dalaj Lama prevarant" (recimo) - bit će svakako više prostora za diskusiju jer i naslov teme govori da se radi o nekoj dilemi koju treba razjasniti i podrazumijeva se da će se na njoj moguće sukobiti dijametralno suprotna razmišljanja i stavovi, no i tu je važno imati na umu da se šamarati treba argumentima a ne uvjerenima ili osobnim uvredama i diskreditiranjem forumaša s kojima se ne slažemo u mišljenju.

Dakle, odgovor je da - naslov teme je zapravo taj koji određuje što će se na njoj dešavati i što je na njoj trolanje a što ne.


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Znači, sva caka je u tome kako nasloviti temu?

Npr tema "Susret s Isusom - svjedočanstva ljudi". Trolanja nema jer se svi slažu, tj. svi komentari idu u prilog temi. Ili komentara nema.
Onda netko otvori temu "Susret s Isusom - svjedočanstva ljudi - rasprava" i tu isto nema trolanja jer je u naslovu teme omogućena rasprava. Ili ni to nije dopušteno?
Na svim temama je dozvoljena konstruktivna rasprava bez gore napisanih vredjanja, omalovažavanja itd.


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Nepročitano 15-05-14, 13:12   #206
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Moze li tema biti trolerska?
Ako se lijepe samo yt filmici i nema mjesta za diskusiju
ili jos 'bolje', odgovara se ljepljenjem drugog filma.
Ovo je vrlo dobro pitanje.
O tome se već diskutiralo i postoje mišljenja koja zastupaju tezu da je to blogiranje a ne forumašenje.

Svakako neki argumenti idu tome u prilog, i ako se radi o jednoj temi povremeno (npr. imamo ih ovdje nekoliko tipa - dokumentarni filmovi, vijesti, štjajaznam - ne mogu se sad sjetiti al ima ih...) onda mislim da se može tolerirati jer i educiranje je nužno potrebno, ne mora se baš na svakoj temi čupat kosa i perje letit - ali ako to postane pravilo onda to više nije forum.

Ali opet ovisi kako je koncipirana tema, odnosno kakav je sam naslov.

Ako je naslov: Dokumentarni filmovi o Izraelu, onda je jasno da se tu nema što puno raspravljati, ali ako je naslov: Da li su dokumentarni filmovi o Izraelu istiniti ... eh, onda će biti druga priča.


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Moze li tema biti trolerska?
Ako se lijepe samo yt filmici i nema mjesta za diskusiju
ili jos 'bolje', odgovara se ljepljenjem drugog filma.
Već ti je Jesam odgovorila, samo ću dopuniti.

Takve teme se u svijetu foruma smatraju spamerskima i nisu dobrodošle (osim tema o glazbi na koje korsnici stavljaju YT pjesme i slično).

Smatra se da je forum prvenstveno medij za raspravu, a FB i blogovi više odgovaraju temama kakve spominješ.

Ovdje su do sada takve teme bile dopuštene i trenutno još uvijek jesu.
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- skretanje teme (npr. otvorite temu o mudrostima Dalaj Lame, a trolerski upisi govore da je Lama prevarant iako to nije tema)


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Boldano ne smatram trolanjem nego raspavom (ili je dan loš primjer)
Ajmo nacrtati - ja crtam, ti gljedaš pa mi poslje kažeš sa čime se konkretno ne slažeš?

Tema glasi: Mudrosti Dalaj Lame

Autor teme je temu zamislio tako da svatko tko želi i smatra prikladim ovdje stavlja Dalaj Lamine mudrosti i o njima raspravlja (npr. kako ih osobno doživljava, kako se poklapaju s njihovom spoznajom itd).

Osoba koja u takvu temu kaubojski utrči s postom: "Kaj vi tu ovo i ono - kad je Dalaj lama običan prevarant" je na krivom mjestu i izazvat će od strane autora teme ovakvu reakciju:

WTF - što sam ti ja učinio/la?

Osoba-kauboj slobodna je (ako želiš, kao odgovor na temu Mudrosti Dalaj Lame) otvoriti novu temu s naslovom Dalaj Lama je prevarant ili Da li je DL prevarant?... i u njoj izlagati argumente u prilog svojoj tvrdnji. Evidentno je da će diskusija na ovoj potonjoj biti mnogo intenzivnija, žešća i možda provokativnija, ali sve je u skladu s temom.

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- skretanje teme (npr. otvorite temu o mudrostima Dalaj Lame, a trolerski upisi govore da je Lama prevarant iako to nije tema)




Ajmo nacrtati - ja crtam, ti gljedaš pa mi poslje kažeš sa čime se konkretno ne slažeš?

Tema glasi: Mudrosti Dalaj Lame

Autor teme je temu zamislio tako da svatko tko želi i smatra prikladim ovdje stavlja Dalaj Lamine mudrosti i o njima raspravlja (npr. kako ih osobno doživljava, kako se poklapaju s njihovom spoznajom itd).

Osoba koja u takvu temu kaubojski utrči s postom: "Kaj vi tu ovo i ono - kad je Dalaj lama običan prevarant" je na krivom mjestu i izazvat će od strane autora teme ovakvu reakciju:

WTF - što sam ti ja učinio/la?

Osoba-kauboj slobodna je (ako želiš, kao odgovor na temu Mudrosti Dalaj Lame) otvoriti novu temu s naslovom Dalaj Lama je prevarant ili Da li je DL prevarant?... i u njoj izlagati argumente u prilog svojoj tvrdnji. Evidentno je da će diskusija na ovoj potonjoj biti mnogo intenzivnija, žešća i možda provokativnija, ali sve je u skladu s temom.

Kibiš?
Kibim. Dakle biti će kako je bilo i do sada (glede rasprava). Osim ako pažljivo ne biramo naslove tema.
Znaš da sam protiv svakog nasilja i kaubojštine, nekulture i obezvrijeđivanja drugih, što njihovih uvjerenja i vjerovanja, što njih kao osoba.




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