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Nepročitano 21-05-15, 21:23   #601
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Da, u slučaju da si mod, ali ako nisi onda niš od toga.
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Što se mene tiče vas dvoje ste i dalje modovi tako se i ponašate na forumu i beskrajno vam hvala na tome
Ja cjelo vrijeme mislio da je jesam mod o.O

Btw...nije bas da sam uzoran xD

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Ja cjelo vrijeme mislio da je jesam mod o.O

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Dobro si mislio

Btw...Imaš više kriterijume od mene!?
Problem je kad se s modovima moze raspravljat i pregovarat. Onda svi traze neka prava ili ovaj je ovak a ja onak. Mora bit ovaj je ovak ja onak i to je OK odnosno nema radprave modova i clanova kako treba postupat, niti smije bit demokracije, Admin mora imat neke ciljeve foruma i objasbit ih modovima, te bi oni trevali usmjeravat forum prema tom cilju. Naravno cilj se ne moze pogodit sa 100% preciznosti. Forum bi morao imat neke interese i modovi moraju znati koji su to interesi inace ode nizbrdo i postaje teret odrzavanje foruma i modovima i adminima

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Problem je kad se s modovima moze raspravljat i pregovarat. Onda svi traze neka prava ili ovaj je ovak a ja onak. Mora bit ovaj je ovak ja onak i to je OK odnosno nema radprave modova i clanova kako treba postupat, niti smije bit demokracije, Admin mora imat neke ciljeve foruma i objasbit ih modovima, te bi oni trevali usmjeravat forum prema tom cilju. Naravno cilj se ne moze pogodit sa 100% preciznosti. Forum bi morao imat neke interese i modovi moraju znati koji su to interesi inace ode nizbrdo i postaje teret odrzavanje foruma i modovima i adminima

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Sve je to rešeno još pre 6 godina, koliko sam moderator na forumu. Nikada ovde nije bilo nekih velikih problema,( iako je bilo rasprava što i sam znaš), ali ni autokratskog pristupa članovima...jer forum svakako ima svoju svrhu, (nekada više nego danas, samim tim jer je bilo mnogo više aktivnih članova) a to je pomoć ljudima kojima je potrebna, na neki od alternativnih načina...Verujem da je taj cilj neprikosnoven kao i većina ljudi koji su aktivni ovde godinama, tako da nema potrebe za nekim "strogim" nastupima...svi smo ovde zreli ljudi i većiini je dovoljno da uz par lepih reči, promeni ponašanje, ako je to potrebno.


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Sve je to rešeno još pre 6 godina, koliko sam moderator na forumu. Nikada ovde nije bilo nekih velikih problema,( iako je bilo rasprava što i sam znaš), ali ni autokratskog pristupa članovima...jer forum svakako ima svoju svrhu, (nekada više nego danas, samim tim jer je bilo mnogo više aktivnih članova) a to je pomoć ljudima kojima je potrebna, na neki od alternativnih načina...Verujem da je taj cilj neprikosnoven kao i većina ljudi koji su aktivni ovde godinama, tako da nema potrebe za nekim "strogim" nastupima...svi smo ovde zreli ljudi i većiini je dovoljno da uz par lepih reči, promeni ponašanje, ako je to potrebno.
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Problem je kad se s modovima moze raspravljat i pregovarat. Onda svi traze neka prava ili ovaj je ovak a ja onak. Mora bit ovaj je ovak ja onak i to je OK odnosno nema radprave modova i clanova kako treba postupat, niti smije bit demokracije, Admin mora imat neke ciljeve foruma i objasbit ih modovima, te bi oni trevali usmjeravat forum prema tom cilju. Naravno cilj se ne moze pogodit sa 100% preciznosti. Forum bi morao imat neke interese i modovi moraju znati koji su to interesi inace ode nizbrdo i postaje teret odrzavanje foruma i modovima i adminima

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Sve je to rešeno još pre 6 godina, koliko sam moderator na forumu. Nikada ovde nije bilo nekih velikih problema,( iako je bilo rasprava što i sam znaš), ali ni autokratskog pristupa članovima...jer forum svakako ima svoju svrhu, (nekada više nego danas, samim tim jer je bilo mnogo više aktivnih članova) a to je pomoć ljudima kojima je potrebna, na neki od alternativnih načina...Verujem da je taj cilj neprikosnoven kao i većina ljudi koji su aktivni ovde godinama, tako da nema potrebe za nekim "strogim" nastupima...svi smo ovde zreli ljudi i većiini je dovoljno da uz par lepih reči, promeni ponašanje, ako je to potrebno.
Da nije bilo zoke ovog foruma više ne bi ni bilo, već u prvoj godini.
Forum je na početku postojanja imao jednu veliku krizu kada su ga napustili svi modovi osim zoke zbog neopravdanog protjerivanja jednog moda od strane drugog moda i adminice.
Na kraju se je sve, najviše i zbog njenog utjecaja u velikoj mjeri izgladilo.

To sam napisao jer ovaj džon pristup o kojem piše molder nije donio dobro u prošlosti.
Ovo nije klasični forum, sviđa mi se taj ženski touch u moderaturi...
Možda bi pristup nekada trebao biti malo žešći, ali nitko nije savršen
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Zar nije pomalo žalosno da me nakon toliko godina na ovom forumu ( s pauzama), gledaš kao sistem, predstavnik sistema ili simbol institucije?
Ja sam Naftali.....pogledaj me...ona uvijek ista Naftali, samo sa puno više tuge, ali i nade u srcu.
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Pa nema veze koliko je tko sudionik u forumu. Iza nicka...zvuči mi malko manipulativno. Svi se mijenjaju u vremenu( odnosi se i na mene afkors..)

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Da ti iskreno kažem, niti malo nisam spremna za religijske teme.....filozofsko dogmatske ili sociološke naravi
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Ali zato religijske teme spremno plasiraš pod 'Duhovnost' i onu temu 'Igra nije gotova', svako malo, dozirano. To kao podsjetnik da su možda samo vjernici duhovni ili' .......
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Ali zato religijske teme spremno plasiraš pod 'Duhovnost' i onu temu 'Igra nije gotova', svako malo, dozirano. To kao podsjetnik da su možda samo vjernici duhovni ili' .......
Ono je moja umjetnička tema (ja sam ju otvorila) na koju su pozvani svi pisati na drugačiji način (poezija, proza, stihovi u prozi, vlastite rukotvorine kroz riječ- manje kopiranje tuđih tekstova, razmišljanja, vlastite meditacije..itd).

Budući da sam i vjernik, naravno da će određeni tekstovi biti prožeti i tom dimenzijom.

Trebala bi se zapitati zašto o tuđim uratcima razmišljaš kao o plasiranju nekakvih doziranih ideja s određenom nakanom.

Tvoje riječi zvuče pomalo ljubomorno, što mi je čudno jer koliko se sjećam, i ti se baviš nekom od umjetnosti (slikanje...?), pa očekujem barem razumijevanje.

Zaobilazi moju temu ako ti ne leži.
Što da ti drugo kažem?

Prije puno godina sam i vlasnicu foruma pitala mogu li svoje autorske tekstove stavljati u tu temu, ona se je složila i bilo joj je drago da sam baš ovaj foruma izabrala za to.

Dakle, bez obzira na naša različita poimanja života i svijeta, ne bi ti trebalo smetati što i ja, u jednom kutku svemira,imam sobu za svoju igru, ali u koju su svi pozvani....ne debatiranjem,nego inspiracijom riječi.

I moram ti priznati, već dugo dugo vremena osjećam tu vibraciju od tebe koja je adekvatno riječima i polju koje leži iza njih, a koje si mi upravo uputila ovdje na "tehničkoj" temi.

Dakle, trebala bih ovo shvatiti kao pritužbu na moje upise u temi Igra nije gotova?


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Uoo piše ponekad vrlo intelektualne i uvijek
kulturne postove, za razliku od mnogih višenickovnih i njihovih jednonickovnih satrapa, koji su tu da bi provocirali koga stignu.
To što Uoo zastupa jednolinearne teze i nastoji privoliti druge da tako razmišljaju je stvar za neku drugu diskusiju: vidio sam nekoliko takvih upisa i prestao ih čitati, a i kada odgovorim takvim osobama, uvijek je to upravo u trenutku kada slučajno pročitam jedan od njihovih na tisuće istih postova, a onda i pošteno repliciram na to i podcrtam komentarski poantirajući, zbog nekih drugih koji će to čitati, da se radi o misionarenju, pri čemu ne potenciram da ono treba imati vjerski ili nacionalni predznak i ne dajući sebi za pravo da bilo koga omalovažavam na bilo kom nivou: religijskom, filozofskom, naučnom, ateističkom.
No sreća je da je Internet vrlo široka, gotovo beskrajna, zajednica i da mnogi imaju podatke o svim takvim emocionalnim vampirima.
Jednom davno, na jednom provincijalnom forumu, na kojem sam pisao od srca duge i posvećene postove, najednom primijetim da jedan muški član tog foruma komentira sa ženskom forumskom članicom kako mu je drago što pišem takve duge postove, jer on ima šta čitati i čemu se smijati.
Saznao sam ubrzo o kojim se osobama radi, pošto me je baš interesiralo čime su to oni svoju društvenu zajednicu zadužili da sjede ispred računarskog ekrana, ništa suvislo ne pišu i daju sebi za pravo da budu ničim izazvano ili na bilo koji način cinični.
Na stranu što sam, usput i kasnije, saznao prilično interesantne činjenice o prijespomenutim likovima, nego sam se počeo smijati kada sam prvi put čuo, imenom i prezimenom, o kome se radi.
Budite oprezni šta i kako pišete i koga i kako komentirate: svi sve znaju — i gdje živite i kako imate mogućnost da čitav dan na raznim internetskim forumima provocirate druge individualno ili grupno, i ko i kako Vam daje platu, i koje privatne stvari krijete dok ulazite u tuđe intime.
I budite pristojni: nigdje ne piše u, npr., Zagrebu da ne hodate goli, ali ipak ne hodate i ne nosite pornografske sadržaje da ih pokazujete kome stignete, i na radnom mjestu, bilo da Vam je drugi gazda ili ste svoj gazda, ne psujete i ne ponašate se opsceno.
A vjerujem da se i u stvarnom životu trudite da bude intelektualni i razmjenjujete informacije sa okolinom na obostrano zadovoljstvo.
Sve druge okolnosti su apsolutno nebitne, pogotovo jer je Internet prevashodno informativni, a onda i zabavni, ali ne, svakako, destruktivni medij.
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