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Možeš koristi i ono Moojievo, ako ti je lakše...

Samo promatraš osjećaje možeš se i pitati tko sam ja?
Kakvi god osjećaj dođu samo promatraš i ne potiskuješ, prosuđuješ, analiziraš
Ako je jaka negativa prepustiš joj se u potpunosti i samo promatraš, ubrzo sve izgara jer nema goriva od uma. Kad dođe olakšanje, čak ni njega ne analiziraš i to je to

Može i pitanje Tko to trpi, za teže misli, ali evo videa s prijevodom gdje je to on opširnije objasnio (bilo već puno puta, ali uvijek dobro za prisjećanje):



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Ne znam je li netko već stavio pa evo ja ću možda opet....
Predavanje u 9 djelova, još uvijek gledam, ako sam dobro vidjela preko 10 sati. Puno jasnije nego u knjizi i tekstovima koje sam pronalazila po netu. Metode i alati i još koješta.
Sviđa mi se što H. ne traži novca i učitelja, samo malo koncentracije na početku dok veza sa "djetetom" ne proradi.
Preporučam svima koji nisu probali, ne traži kruha samo igara, blesavo je ali treba se znati šaliti sa sobom.


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Ne trebaš govoriti sve 4 rečenice odjednom, ali i možeš, radi ono što misliš da je najbolje za tebe.
Čitam i slušam da treba proći period samo mantranja da bi se pročistile poruke, govore o oslobađanju djeteta u sebi, tj. djete treba samo otpustiti "smeće"... čitaj, pogledaj predavanja kad stigneš, ja ću po malo pisati zanimljivosti iz te priče.
Tamo pišu i govore o milijunima informacija u sekundi kojih nismo svijesni, zboog toga nesvijesnog treba mantrati. Ima u nama "smeća" kojega nismo ni svijeni da postoji... ona priča o žarulji u podrumu.
Sve to što govoriš, u stvari govoriš sebi, tom djetetu u sebi koje treba osloboditi, ne osobi ili situaciji koja te muči.

Evo još nekih alata za čišćenje, o kojima sam danas čula, osim ove 4 rečenice:

1. disanje: spojiti palac, kažiprst i srednji prst u kariku, na lijevoj i desnoj ruci, napraviti osmicu (znak beskonačnosti, palac predstavlja tebe, kažiprst božansko a srednji prst politiku - to nisam skužila ali ću pronaći), udah - brojati do sedam, pauza - brojati do 7, izdah - brojati do 7, pauza - brojati do 7... i tako 9 X.

2. riječi "ledeno plavo" koristiti u interakciji s biljkama, kada ih zaljevamo, čupamo, režemo, dodirujemo... kada želimo da nas biljka očisti.

3. "plava voda", pijenje vode iz plave staklene boce, koja ne smije imati metalni čep. Voda se sunča 15 min do sat vremena, može i na žarulju, navodno se tako energizira (niš ne košta probati), samo jedna kap takve vode u drugoj vodi iz pipe daje svoj vodi ista svojstva... Možemo je koristiti za pranje, kapnuti na hranu, sladoled u kavu....Dr. I. tako kaže i fura bočicu sa sobom. Ko sam ja da sumnjam. Čistim, čistim...

4, jagode je posebno spomenuo kao sredstvo protiv depresije i nakupljenog bijesa, kaže da ih uvijek nosi sa sobom (sušene ako nema drugih) i da je dovoljno i liznuti jagodu jer jedan atom čini razliku... Borovnica otvara dimenzije prema božanskom... vruća čokolada stavlja božansko ispred svega... potražit ću još. Govorio je i da je dovoljno gledati/ imati sliku određenog voća ili biljaka, čak i tako se događa čišćenje...

5. CEEPORT, e sad tu dilaju nekakve vizitke i naljepnice, pa to stavljaš svuda... ima na netu za skinuti, ne znam djeluje li ako se printa ili mora imati neki blagoslov.

C-clean, E - erase, E- erase, Port - luka, povratak u luku, je značenje.
U knjizi ima taj znak, pa mislim da i to vrijedi ako je objavljeno od autora.

Kaže doktor da sve može biti čistač, kada proradi veza nula će nam pokazati. Sve oko nas je energija i živo je, tako da treba čistiti prostorije, predmete koje koristimo, sve. Za to služe alati.

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Evo mini priručnik Mabel Katz (koja je, btw, meni najlogičnija, najkonciznija i najkonkretnija): http://hooponoponoway.net/PREMIUM_FI...y-croatian.pdf


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A Lili - to!!! Just go with the flow!

A evo sjajne meditacije razgovora s unutrašnjim djetetom za sve kojima se ne da gledati 10 sati seminara. Nije prevedeno ali valjda ćete toliko skužiti.



Za sve koji su štreberi ko ja, napravila sam transkript toka razgovora ... možda je malo jasnije:

Close your eyes and move your attention to the inner child. Talk to it, very slowly:

- For the first time in creation, I am acknowledging your presence in me.
- This is the first time that I am aware that you are part of me.
- I love you, I love you …
- I'm sorry. Please forgive me for all the accumulated memories that you experienced as sorrow, grief, pain ..
- I would like to have it undone

Always ask the child for permission:
- Please allow me to stroke the top of your head with love and concern. (Then just do it, very gently.)
- I love you. Please forgive me for all accumulated memories that you have stored inside you.
- Thank you for being part of me.
- I'm sorry if I have been neglectful, if I'm not taking good care of you – I'm sorry. ..

Help me to let go (then do an inventory of your bodily state, any headackes, backpain …) of any pain we're experiencing – please, let go of any memories that are replaying this! I don't know what the memories are, I don't want to know what the memories are, but you know and then we can offer it to the Divinity through the supercounsious, we can ask the Divinity to set it free … do it while stroking the child on the head.

Then ask for permission to hug it very gently (we do not want to scare the child, so be careful and gentle).
- Please allow me to hug you. Thank you for being part of me. I love you and I'm sorry for all the accumulated memories that you experienced as sorrow, grief, pain – please forgive me.

- Please give me your hand so I can grasp it gently, whichever hand you want to give to me, it's alright. Then take the offered hand and stroke it very gently, again saying: Thank you for being part of me, a part of me I have not payed much attention to. I love you and I'm sorry for all the accumulated memories that you experienced as sorrow, grief, pain – please forgive me. I love you.

Take another inventory – perhaps financially: - here are the problems (list them, tell the child what they are), please let go.

Next ask the child to hold its other hand: - Please allow me to hold your other hand. Reach mentally for the other hand, grasp it gently and stroke it.
Then take an inventory of problems within your relationships with other people. What is going on in me that I'm having these problems in relationships with people? Bring up the problems. (I'm annoyed, irritable …) I don't know what's going on but Please let go … again list that what you whish to let go of.

Now ask for permission to hold the childs shoulders. Please allow me to hold your shoulders and give you unlimited love. Look into its eyes and say:
Thank you, thank you, thank you for being part of me, I'm really greatful to know that there is you in me that I have not been taking care of from the beginning of time. I'm sorry. I love you. Thank you for being willing to let me be a part of you… You and I can walk hand in hand with the Divinity and in the presence of Aumakua, into the light.

Do it in the morning or evening or during the day just to get connected.

Now do 7 rounds of breathing, with thumb and forefinger touching, hands in your lap, feet touching the ground.

Sorry što nisam prevodila ali budem pa naknadno stavim i na hrvatskom.

Ja ovo radim i radi sebe jer se nekako izgubim kada trebam nešto konkretno odraditi i onda sam malo sigurnija kad imam neki kostur (znam, znam Uoo, Eorlan što ćete reći ... ali tako je to, pustite me da se patim )


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Sad ću ti ja reći čime da se patiš (ili ne patiš)

Ako treba što bolje ti ispravi

Citat:
Zatvorite oči i obratite pozornost na dijete u sebi. Obratite mu se, veoma polako, strpljivo:

- Po prvi puta u kreaciji, priznajem tvoju prisutnost u meni.
- Ovo je prvi put da sam svjestan/na da si dio mene.
- Volim te, volim te...
- Žao mi je. Molim te oprosti mi za sva nakupljena sjećanja koja si doživjelo kao tugu, žalost, bol...
- Želim sve to poništiti

Uvjek zatražite dopuštenje od djeteta:
- Molim te dozvoli mi pogladiti te s ljubavlju i brigom. (Onda to učinite, veoma nježno.)
- Volim te. Molim te oprosti mi za sva nakupljena sjećanja koje sam u tebi spremio/la.
- Hvala ti što si dio mene.
- Žao mi je ako sam bio/la nemaran/na, ako se ne brinem dobro za tebe - žao mi je.

Pomozi mi otpustiti (napravite pregled svog tjelesnog stanja, glavobolje, bolovi u leđima...) bilo kakvu bol koju doživljavamo - molim te, otpusti sva sjećanja u kojima to ponovno proživljavaš! Ne znam što su ta sjećanja, ne želim znati što su ta sjećanja, ali ti znaš i stoga to možemo ponuditi Božanskom kroz nadsvijest, možemo zamoliti Božansko da to oslobodi... učinite to dok gladite dijete po glavi.

Zatim tražite dopuštenje da ga jako nježno zagrlite (ne želimo uplašiti djete, zato budite oprezni i nježni)
- Molim te dozvoli mi da te zagrlim. Hvala ti što si dio mene. Volim te i žao mi je zbog nagomilanih sjećanja koje si iskusilo kao tugu, žalost, bol - molim te oprosti mi.

-Molim te pruži mi ruku kako bih je nježno primio, koju god ruku mi želiš pružiti, dobro je. Zatim uzmite pruženu ruku i nježno je pogladite ponavljajući: Hvala ti što si dio mene, dio komu nisam posvećivao/la mnogo pozornosti. Volim te i žao mi je za sva nakupljena sjećanja koja si iskusilo kao tugu, žalost, bol - molim te oprosti mi. Volim te.

Napravite još jedan pregled - recimo financijski: - ovo su problemi (nabrojite ih, recite djetetu što su), molim te otpusti ih.

Zatim upitajte djete da vam pruži drugu ruku: - Molim te dozvoli mi primiti tvoju drugu ruku. Mentalno posegnite za drugom rukom, uzmite je i nježno pogladite. Promislite o problemima u vašim odnosima s drugim ljudima. Što se to u meni događa da imam ove probleme u odnosima? Osvjestite probleme, (nervozan/na sam, živčan/na...) ne znam što se događa ali molim te da to otpustiš... ponovno nabrojite sve što želite otpustiti.

Sad tražite dopuštenje da primite djetetova ramena. Molim te dozvoli mi primiti te za ramena i dati ti beskrajnu ljubav. Pogledajte ga u oči i recite: Hvala ti, hvala ti, hvala ti što si dio mene, zaista sam zahvalan što znam da postojiš kao dio mene, o kojem nisam brinuo od početka vremena. Žao mi je. Volim te. Hvala ti što mi dozvoljavaš da budem dio tebe... Ti i ja možemo hodati ruku pod ruku s Božanskim u prisutnosti Aumakua, u svijetlost.

Učinite to ujutro ili uvečer ili preko dana kako bi ste se povezali

Sada napravite 7 ponavljanja disanja, palca i kažiprsta spojenih, ruke u krilu, stopala dodirujući tlo.

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Eorlane - svaka ti čast! Brz si.

Hvala ti.

Dodatna napomena - 1 runda disanja je ovako:

Udah na nos u trajanju 7 sek (ili dok nabrojiš do 7) - zadrži dah 7 sek - izdah na usta uz 'HA' (izdah isto traje 7 sekundi) - zadrži dah 7 sek.

Prsti se spoje u Gyan mudru (osnovna mudra: spojiti kažiprst i palac, dlanovi prema gore i položiti ruke blago u krilo), i stopala moraju doticati pod cijelom površinom, leđa uspravno uz naslon stolice, radi protoka energije.


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Dobra je fora s gumicom i brisanjem. I s tim sam se već ranije susrela u sklopu drugih tehnika.

Na papir napišemo svoj problem - npr. zdravstveni. I povremeno tapkamo po napisanom s gumicom na olovci i govorimo "Obrisano, obrisano, obrisano ... "

Zatim metoda za iscjeljivanje svih virusa i supervirusa, odnosno bolesti koje se temelje na njima (npr. HiV) uzmemo paprat, ali mora baš biti ta specifična paprat s Mauia, imenom Laua'e - evo je ovdje:





Dakle, uzmemo paprat (ili sliku paprati), i s mentalnom slikom bolesti kažemo: Brendiram te s Laua'e! To je zapravo logo za uklanjanje supervirusa koji su zapravo naša ponavljajuća sjećanja.
A božansko će znati što treba raditi i na što se to "te" odnosi.
Zatim povremeno gledamo sliku paprati, dodirujemo ju ili nosimo na sebi.

(tako sam ja shvatila iz predavanja, nažalost nema baš puno o tome drugdje a imala bih i ja pitanja vezana uz to - no, ja ću probati i za druge stvari pa ću vidjeti)

Evo točno čno što kaže na engleskom:

1. Look at it (the fern or the picture) while keeping in mind the illness you're working on and say:
“I brand IT with fern (or LAUA'E)". The Divinity will know exactly what the IT stands for.
2. You just wear the fern. As you touch it or look at it, it is undoing the memory that has to do with the illness.
3. This works for supervisuses, viruses, HIV, Alzheimers etc (these are viruses that came from Space). Say: whatever is in my ancestory line, I brand it …

Kaže Hew Len da su supervirusi i općenito virusi vanzemaljskog porijekla i zato ih s naše razine ne možemo nikako liječiti jer se oni ne ponašaju u skladu s prirodnim zakonima naše Gaje. A to je valjda svima jasno pri samom pogledu na virus.


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