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Nepročitano 21-10-10, 21:34   #1
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Odradio prvi korak prema jednoj od svojih velikih želja, kupio teren na kojem će nadam se jednog dana biti ekološko poljoprivredno imanje. Teren je negdje na pola puta između Vrbovskog i Ogulina, u blizini jednog od bezbroj sela koje ovdje odumiru zajedno sa stanovništvom, tek nekoliko kućica u blizini. Meni to savršeno odgovara, nitko ništa ne uzgaja, auti ne prolaze, nema dalekovoda, ma nema ničega.

Usred te divljine sam sada vlasnik nekakvog proplanka od par tisuća kvadrata, dio je čista livada a dio je potpuno zapušten i gotovo neupotrebljiv šumarak. U dugoročnom je planu kako sam rekao jedan samoodrživ ekosustav, kućica možda baš od slame, uzgoj vlastite hrane, neovisnost o civilizaciji. Kratkoročno, započeo bih sa sadnjom voćnjaka. Kako sam stalno zaposlen, nisam u mogućnosti brinuti se o imanju svakodnevno, pa mi treba nešto što se može samo održavati. Podneblje je hladno i vlažno, a prema onom što sam do sad proučio bilo bi idealno za bobičasto voće.

Prvo mi je napamet pala kupina, i mislim da ću s njom krenuti. Nakon što sam pročitao o Aroniji, poželio sam i s njom pokušati, tako da za sad imam dva kandidata. Ostalo mi se čini ili nedostupno, ili prezahtjevno za početnika. Jedna biljka mi stalno budi znatiželju, to je borovica (Juniperus communis), navodno je baš na ovom "mom" području samonikla i sveprisutna, a plodovi su hvaljeni kao vrlo korisni i zdravi. Kako mi dugoročno nije cilj imati ogromnu plantažu jedne vrste voća nego raditi za sebe i prijatelje od svega ponešto, možda baš krenem zabadati po sadnicu-dvije svega što bude htjelo ovdje rasti.

Kako nisam baš sklon da usred livade ubodem sadnice kupina i nadam se da mi to divlje životinje ne pojedu, a ne mogu provoditi dane tamo i gledati kako raste, mislim da bi jedna od prvih stvari bila ograditi bar dio zemljišta. Imam jedan manji komad koji je odvojen od onog većeg i krenuo bih od njega. Zbrojio sam da mi za njega treba oko 120 metara ograde. Naravno, žicu i plastiku ne želim, nego nešto što je šuma dala. Pada mi bezbroj ideja, ali nekako se uvijek vraćam ovoj pletenoj ogradi:
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Konkretno, dignuo bih sličnu ogradu visine 1.5m - 2.0m i koristio je kao oslonac za buduće grmove kupina. Onda bih na proljeće sadio kupine uz ogradu, sredinu ostavio praznu za buduće ideje. Ograda ne mora biti vječna, lako ju kasnije zamjenim nekom živom.

Sad, problem je što mi treba ogromna količina šiblja za ogradu (120x2= 240m2). Gdje to nabaviti? Ostaje li to kao višak u drvnoj industriji možda, ili netko prodaje za sitne novce? Ne mogu baš sjekirom napasti vrbe u parku, a imam osjećaj da bih morao provesti zimu u šumi da sakupim toliko granja odgovarajućih dimenzija. Ima tko ideju kako doći do materijala prije proljetne sadnje? Imate li ideju za kakvu zgodniju prirodnu ogradu? Ili kakvo alternativno stabalce za sadnju? (samo da nije ona konoplja, to mi je žena već zabranila...)
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Anastazije nije bilo u Rijeci, pa sam naručio iz Zagreba. Čekajući knjigu pročitao sam puno intervjua koje je dao Megre i komentara na knjigu i to mi je dalo poticaj da napravim ono što odavno želim. Knjigu još uvijek čekam, mislim da je netko tamo zaboravio poslati pa ću naručiti opet. Naručiti ću kad mi dođe plaća jer sam za ovu zemlju doslovno dao sve što sam imao na raspolaganju :) Došao sam vlasnicima sa vrećicom punom zgužvanih novčanica od 5, 10 i 50 eura i rekao "to je sve što imam, i kupio bih sve što vi imate". Samo sam se nadao da ću imati dovoljno goriva u autu da se vratim kući .

Eh da, čitajući samo opise Anastazije pomislio sam "hej, ovaj lik krade moje ideje" Bit će baš zanimljivo pročitati , po mogućnosti i proći tečaj.
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Imate li ideju za kakvu zgodniju prirodnu ogradu?
Bas mi je drago zbog tog tvog poduhvata i ideje ( istu želju imam i ja ali trenutnonisam u mogucnosti to napraviti, ali jednog dana hoču! ).
A što se tiće ograda..... potraži na netu Zemlja mira, mislim da je to napravila jedna austrijska udruga , imaš snimljene emisije o tome.... vrte se na lokalnim tv postajama, ja sam npr- vidio na Kapital network.... dakle, oni su na toj eko farmi ili kako je oni zovu Zemlji mira, napravili nekakve živice, čini mi se koristeči granje i sve što im je ostalo prilikom čišćenja terena....
Te živice su se pokazale jako dobre jer su prirodne i vrlo brzo su se uklopile u sam okoliš i prihvaćene od cijelog eko sustava ( nastanile su se male životinje, od ptica i dr. ) ....
Pogledaj emisije , jako su dobre i ima puno dobrih stvari!

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Našla sam članak u magazinu Svjetlost (broj 92), o austrijancu koji se zove Sepp Holzer koji se bavi permakulturom. Bio je u Hrvatskoj ove godine na Eiju, permakulturnom imanju u Istri.
Izdao je nekoliko knjiga, jedna se zove Poljodjelac - Buntovnik od Wu Wei Budjenja.
Čitajući članak oduševila sam se ovim gospodinom koji je, živeći na farmi od rođenja, promatrao prirodu i pokušavao surađivati sa njom. Gradi jezera kako bi prirodno navodnjavao zamljište, sadi grupe biljaka koje podržavaju zajednički rast, ima i domaće životinje koje slobodne žive na farmi.
Na njegovom imanju, koje se nalazi na 1300 metara nadmorske visine, uspijevaju agrumi, i drugo bilje koje inače ne uspijeva u klimatskim uslovima tog područja.

Koliko sam razumjela, on pravi samoodrživ ekosistem koji, jednom kad se isprojektuje i izradi (nekoliko godina), funkcioniše bez velikih intervencija.


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pošao sam staviti filmic sa youtuba ali ne ide .... kako se to radi ????
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Lijepo, stvarno lijepo. E da je meni tako . Joj jedva čekam da padne snijeg pa da odem viditi kako livada izgleda u bijelom. Ne znam samo hoće li biti moguće što ozbiljnije raditi po snijegu. Ma kuckanje ograde će valjda ići, ovisi koliko ga bude. Moram u šumu po kolce, samo da me lovci ne zamjene za kakvu divljač.
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