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Nepročitano 03-09-12, 23:08   #31
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Alison, osnivaš udrugu / agenciju za informiranje i edukaciju eko graditelja ili si samo vesela i zeleno osvještena ?
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Ovcja, da Odlicna izolacija, stiti od hladnoce i toplote

Staklena vuna je sasvim druga stvar.
da li je ovčja vuna dobra i kao zvučna izolacija?
i da li se miris vune osjeća u prostoru?
jednom sam na rubu znanosti gledala emisiju gdje su rekli da pored Zagreba živi grupa ljudi u ekološkoj kući i da daju savjete kako graditi. da li netko zna o kome je riječ, kako ih se može kontaktirati?
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Ovcija vuna ne hladi i ne grije , nego zadrzava svoju standardnu temperaturu.
Zato ovce mogu boraviti vani i pri velikoj hladnoci i vrucini.
Osim toga, vuna moze da zadrzi vlagu i do 33% od svoje tezine- sto je velika
prednost u odnosu na druge izolacione materijale , koji se skoro uvijek
moraju dodatno folijom zastititi od vlage.
Vuna stiti cak i od elektro smoga i vezuje otrovne materije (Formaldehyd).
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A kao zvučna izolacija?
Da li štiti od zvuka?
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A kao zvučna izolacija?
Da li štiti od zvuka?
Kao zvucnu izolaciju
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U standardnom graditeljstvu za zvučnu izolaciju se koristi, kamena i staklena vuna , tervol a najbolja je spužva (ali i najskuplja)
Tako da nije bitna tvrdoća već gustoća materijala. Zato sam se poveselila da bi vuna mogla biti neko dobro riješenje ako je uopće izvedivo ovo šta sam zamislila.
Naime u stanu nam se sve čuje s gornjeg kata. mislimo spustiti plafone sa gipsom, a unutar gipsa ide nešto od ovoga gore navedenog.
Tko zna da li bi vuna funkcionirala i da ne smrdi stan po vuni (vuna, tj. runo ima strašno jak miris)
I da, da li se ovdje misli na vunu ili na runo? Tj. onu dlaku koju se dobije kod šišanja ovaca , bez ikakve prerade??
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Ja proljetos radila projekat sa ovčarima i u pripremi malo čituckala o vuni. Vuna ne gori, gasi se vrlo lako tako da je super zaštita i od požara. Kažu ovčari da je moraju poljevati benzinom da bi je se riješili, jer odbačena na livadama, onečišćuje zemlju i vodu.
Ja ne osjetim nikakav miris vune u ovoj kući.
Da, vuna je i odlična zvučna izolacija, njome se izoliraju zidovi, podovi i stropovi.
Proces čišćenja ne smije biti hemijski agresivan. Vuna se pere nekoliko puta u mlakoj vodi, suši, četka. Važno je da na dlaci ostanu masnoće (pomaže kod išijaza nanešena na kožu bolnog mjesta). Tako obradjena vuna neće više imati neugodne mirise.
Vuna štiti od elektro-magnetnog zračenja, apsorbira i neutralizira mnogo otrovnih gasova kojima su ljudi u gradovima izloženi.
Dobar način obrade vune za izolaciju predstavlja (predpostavljam) filcanje. Filcanje je tehnika koja spada u stare zanate. Njome su ljudi prije oblikovali vunu u platno, petljajući je posebnom iglom ili tehnikom trljanja mokre vune (kape, prsluci, jeleci). Filcanje sam radila, i jako je zabavno.


Evo članak na Wikipediji na eng.

Rado bih nekad izgradila sebi dom, a vuna bi sigurno bila dio njega
Nisam ni znala da mi je o vuni toliko ostalo u glavi


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Hvala ovo mi je vrlo drago pročitati.
Znači, mogla bih koristiti vunu.
Dovoljno bi je bilo oprati 3,4 puta u mlakoj vodi, osušiti i koristiti za zvučnu izolaciju?
Ima neki link na hrvatskom o tome možda?!?
Da li je to pranje težak posao' To se radi sigurno u velikim posudama, na otvorenome, koliko treba da se vuna osuši? Naravno ako je sunčano vrijeme?
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Hvala ovo mi je vrlo drago pročitati.
Znači, mogla bih koristiti vunu.
Dovoljno bi je bilo oprati 3,4 puta u mlakoj vodi, osušiti i koristiti za zvučnu izolaciju?
Ima neki link na hrvatskom o tome možda?!?
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Ovcja, da Odlicna izolacija, stiti od hladnoce i toplote

Staklena vuna je sasvim druga stvar.
Hm, kakva li ovca daje staklenu vunu???
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