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Koje je najisplativija vrsta grijanja za kuću?
Besplatna.

Da sad ponovno gradim, napravila bih one samoodržive geotermalne sustave s cijevima u zemlji koji ljeti hlade a zimi griju. Fantastično - nakon inicijalne investicije kasnije je trošak skoro pa nula.
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Besplatna.

Da sad ponovno gradim, napravila bih one samoodržive geotermalne sustave s cijevima u zemlji koji ljeti hlade a zimi griju. Fantastično - nakon inicijalne investicije kasnije je trošak skoro pa nula.
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Glavni nedostaci geotermalnog grijanja su vrlo visoki inicijalni troškovi i slaba raširenost područja pogodnih za iskorištavanje ovakvog izvora energije. Takva područja nalaze se uz rubove tektonskih ploča, a van tog područja je zemljina kora jednostavno previše debela za ozbiljnije iskorištavanje geotermalne energije. Prema podacima američkog ministarstva energije povrat inicijalnih troškova instalacije može biti od dvije do čak 20 godina.
Kao nedostatak potrebno je navesti i činjenicu da geotermalno grijanje nije baš 100% čisti oblik grijanja zbog toplinskih pumpi koje za pogon koriste električnu energiju, a ta električna energija uobičajeno se proizvodi iz ekološki neprihvatljivog ugljena, pa se ipak u atmosferu oslobađa određena količina stakleničkih plinova.
Ovo su bile osnovne prednosti i mane geotermalnog grijanja i glavni zaključak je da ukoliko si netko to može priuštiti (zbog velikih inicijalnih troškova), dugoročno će se investicija svakako isplatiti. Ovo je osobito odnosi na nisku cijenu grijanja i izvrsnu efikasnost sustava grijanja koji iskorištavaju geotermalnu energiju.


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Ma kakve tektonske ploče?! To su sustavi cijevi položene metar ispod površine oko kuće i na tom principu uvelike grade nijemci, austrijanci .... baš gledala jednu emisiju, režijski troškovi su minimalni. Što volim ove cinike koji su jako pametni kad treba kritizirati ali ne bi niš napravili da se pomaknu na bolje (ne znam otkud si prekopirala taj komentar ali skoro pa se kladim da je s foruma.hr - neki lokalni "genijalac") - sad je kao problem to malo struje kaj potroši pumpa ali nije se problem grijati na naftu ili drva i ugljen jer je to strašno ekološki?!

Filistri - htjeli bi valjda i da je investicija besplatna i još da ih netko gladi peruškom! Eto - to je naš narod!!! Ne bi niš platili niti uložili, ali neka je sve besplatno kasnije i još da ne moraju ništa ni raditi ...

Naravno, tu su još i termo-fasade (stiropor minimalno 10 cm, vani je standard već 12 cm), kvalitetna stolarija i još niz trikova koji štede energiju. Sve informacije su dostupne, dosta sam proučavala tu temu.
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Slobodno podijeli. Koja je cijena tog grijanja?
To moraš vidjeti s izvođačima radova - znam da kad sam to gledala prije nekoliko godina nije bilo toliko skuplje nego ovo što sam na kraju ugradila - standardno centralno na UNP plin.

Imam neke materijale ali su skenirani iz knjige pa fakat ne znam kako da to tu nalijepim.
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I kolko te to koštalo, kolo ksad trošiš? Koju površinu griješ?


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I kolko te to koštalo, kolo ksad trošiš? Koju površinu griješ?
Grijem oko 120 m2 samostojeće kuće (plus topla voda) - godišnje natočim nekih 1000 kubika plina što je, ovisno o trenutnoj cijeni, između 7 i 8 tis. kn.

ALI - grijem tako da temperiram, znači da mi unutarnja temperatura ne prelazi 19 stupnjeva, inače kad bih grijala normalno, trošila bih i duplo više. A za takvo temperiranje ti treba elektronski termostat (koji je prilično skup - nekih 300 eur), koji je osjetljiviji i možeš ga točno podesiti da ti temperira a navečer malo podigne tempicu ... s ručnim to nije moguće - znam, jer sam pokušala i potrošila ca. 20% više plina jer mi je lani riknuo taj elektronski.

Plus kupnja cisterne (može se i iznajmiti ali to ispada skuplje ako planiraš koristiti duše od 3 godine, ne isplati se) oko 1000 eura (rabljena) i plus bojler za centralno i sva ostala instalacija.

Tu još moraš računati sve moguće dozvole, ateste, inspekcije od MUP-a, nabavu obvezne opreme za gašenje i hrpu cirkusa, ali s obzirom da u mom selu plina nema, onda je to bila najbolja i najjeftinija opcija (s tim da je cijena plina poskupila točno DUPLO - jer me tada jedno tankanje koštalo 4000 kn a sada 8000).

Dobro je to što si slobodan naručivati koliko želiš - ako imaš love - tankaš, ako nemaš - nitko ti neće zvoniti na vrata da platiš račun.
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U samostojećem objektu naj jeftinije grijanje je na drva, biomasu,pelete, piljevinu.
Ja se grijem na piljevinu i blanjotinu koja mije otpadni proizvod pa je imam za džabe, Ja i sin grijemo dva stanbena objekta od 300 kvadrata i 400 kvadrata radionice. Sin ima podno grijanje jer je novi objekat a ja i radiona radijatore plus topla voda za četiri kupaonice.
Drva su naj jeftiniji energent za samostojeće objekte dok je plin i odmah iza po cijeni ali na plin se nije niko ugrijao ako se štedi.
Kćer mi imala centralno na ložu pa su bili prebacili na plin ali zadnjih četiri pet godina su opet kupovali novu peć na drva i sada su na drvima. Plin je ekološki i higijenski naj bolji stisneš gumb i gotovo dok za drva treba drvarnica, rezanje cijepanje i ubacivanje u peć, što ja kažem treba dati guzice. Moja kotlovnica je automatizirana i elevator sam vuče piljevinu iz silosa u peć. Silos za piljevinu mi je zapremine 160 kubika a sav višak podjelim drugima za grijanje te farmama pilića za štraju pod noge.
Sjećam se prije trideset četrdeset godina dase jako puno ljudi u mom gradu grijalo na piljevinu i dobre stare piljevinke i to sve za džabe. Dovozeći preko ljeta piljevinu iz dvije velike tvornice namještaja koje su je dijelile jer nisu mogle sve upotrebiti za svoje potrebe u sušarama materijala.
Sad su sve vrste energenata enormno poskupile pa je grijanje jedna od većih stavki za kućni budžet bar za nas u kontinentalnim dijelovima države.
Svi koji rade nove samostojeće objekte za stanovanje toplo bih im preporučio podno grijanje jer je naj manji potrošač energije i jako brza isplativost uloženog.
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Da, poslala sam upit za te zračne toplinkse pumpe i lik mi je napisao da se cijene kreću od 10000-15000 eura..


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