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Nepročitano 14-07-11, 08:10   #31
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Sad malo čitam temu i vidim da se preporučuje šećer uz terapiju sodom bikarbonom.

Jel mi netko može objasniti zašto šećer, kada je svima poznato da candida buja upravo zbog njega?

A ako je rak glivica....


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Ja sam pocela da uzimam sodu dva puta dnevno, ali sam na njegovom sajtu nasla da je treba uzimati 20 minuta pre obroka a da obrok treba da sadrzi sto vise secera i soli...i da treba da se uzimaju dodaci kao sto je Mg ...
Da i ja se pitam, kako šećer???


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Sad malo čitam temu i vidim da se preporučuje šećer uz terapiju sodom bikarbonom.

Jel mi netko može objasniti zašto šećer, kada je svima poznato da candida buja upravo zbog njega?

A ako je rak glivica....

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Viš ti kako sam ja lukav, u pitanju mi je odgovor, ali još uvijek čekam neko objašnjenje... :)

Probaću ti ja dati objašnjenje bar prema onome kako sam sama razumjela ovu problematiku i Simocellijevo tumačenje.

Sama candida je gljivica i hrani se šećerima. To nije sporno. Rak, stanice raka nisu gljivice. One nisu candida, već su to stanice koje organizam upravo stvara da bi se obranio od candide. U tom nastojanju da brane organizam one ustvari nekontrolirano bujaju pa time nanose štetu samom organizmu.

Soda bikarbona zbog podizanja lužnatosti organizma djeluje negativno na stanice raka, uništavajući ih. Da bi ona, soda bikarbona, lakše stigla do stanica raka i tako djelovala na njih preporuča se istovremeno davanje i šećera jer candida koja se nagomilala uz stanice raka vuče na sebe šećere pa time i sodu bikarbonu. Šećer bi trebao djelovati kao usmjerivač putovanja sode bikarbone.

Tako sam bar ja shvatila ovo tumačenje i savjet.


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Probaću ti ja dati objašnjenje bar prema onome kako sam sama razumjela ovu problematiku i Simocellijevo tumačenje.

Sama candida je gljivica i hrani se šećerima. To nije sporno. Rak, stanice raka nisu gljivice. One nisu candida, već su to stanice koje organizam upravo stvara da bi se obranio od candide. U tom nastojanju da brane organizam one ustvari nekontrolirano bujaju pa time nanose štetu samom organizmu.

Soda bikarbona zbog podizanja lužnatosti organizma djeluje negativno na stanice raka, uništavajući ih. Da bi ona, soda bikarbona, lakše stigla do stanica raka i tako djelovala na njih preporuča se istovremeno davanje i šećera jer candida koja se nagomilala uz stanice raka vuče na sebe šećere pa time i sodu bikarbonu. Šećer bi trebao djelovati kao usmjerivač putovanja sode bikarbone.

Tako sam bar ja shvatila ovo tumačenje i savjet.
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candida je gljivica i hrani se šećerima.
Svi se slažemo oko toga.

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stanice raka nisu gljivice.
I tu se slažemo.

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to su stanice koje organizam upravo stvara da bi se obranio od candide.
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Da bi soda bikarbona lakše stigla do stanica raka i tako djelovala na njih preporuča se istovremeno davanje i šećera jer candida koja se nagomilala uz stanice raka vuče na sebe šećere pa time i sodu bikarbonu. Šećer bi trebao djelovati kao usmjerivač putovanja sode bikarbone.
Slikama: Zamislite rak i oko njega ovojnicu candide. Kako bi soda stigla do raka, uzima se šećer koji se veže uz candidu.

Došli smo do zaključka da stanice raka nisu gljivice.
Tumorske stanice se stvaraju kako bi se organizam branio od Candide.
Candida vuče na sebe sodu bikarbonu, i candida nestaje.

Zar nakon toga nestaje i rak?

Ako je poanta svega liječenje kandide, a da nakon njenog nestanka nestaje rak, lakše bi bilo uzeti antimikotik.

A što je s preostalim djelom candide koja se nalazi u crijevima, koji je sastavni dio svakog ljudskog bića, što se s njim dešava kada i ako nestaje rak?

Uvjerljivije mi djeluje teorija Dr di Bella sa hormonom rasta, nego ova prejednostavna formulacija bez specifičnih doza za svaku pojedinu vrstu raka.


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Candida vuče na sebe sodu bikarbonu, i candida nestaje.

Zar nakon toga nestaje i rak?

Ako je poanta svega liječenje kandide, a da nakon njenog nestanka nestaje rak, lakše bi bilo uzeti antimikotik.

A što je s preostalim djelom candide koja se nalazi u crijevima, koji je sastavni dio svakog ljudskog bića, što se s njim dešava kada i ako nestaje rak?

Uvjerljivije mi djeluje teorija Dr di Bella sa hormonom rasta, nego ova prejednostavna formulacija bez specifičnih doza za svaku pojedinu vrstu raka.
Ja nemam baš neko određeno pozitivno mišljenje prema ovom tumačenju, makar bi na temelju svog iskustva mogla nešto ovakvo i potkrijepiti. Možda nekom drugom prilikom napravim jednu analizu svega.

Po ovom tumačenju rak nestaje zato što soda stvara lužnato okruženje, tj. okruženje koje je bogato kisikom, a navodno stanice raka u takvom okruženju atrofiraju.

Možeš li malo konkretnije objasniti teoriju dr di Bella ili dati izvor gdje se o njoj može nešto doznati. O njoj ne znam išta, a zanima me.


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ova kontaminacija secera sodom bikarbonom o kojoj gordana prica je nesto slicno sto sam ja radio sa svojim obrocima kad sam dizao imunitet i snagu..

svaki obrok sam "kontaminirao" vecom kolicinom svjezeg cesnjaka.. u tehnici nema greske a primjenjiva je u raznim kombinacijama i kao takva moze vratit balans i ravnotezu organizmu nakratko pruzajuci imunitetu sansu da se oporavi..

koja tehnika nije bitno.. radi konstitucije nekom vise pase jedna nekom druga i koja je najbolja stoga nije moguce utvrditi gledamo li siru sliku..


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ova kontaminacija secera sodom bikarbonom o kojoj gordana prica je nesto slicno sto sam ja radio sa svojim obrocima kad sam dizao imunitet i snagu..

svaki obrok sam "kontaminirao" vecom kolicinom svjezeg cesnjaka.. u tehnici nema greske a primjenjiva je u raznim kombinacijama i kao takva moze vratit balans i ravnotezu organizmu nakratko pruzajuci imunitetu sansu da se oporavi..

koja tehnika nije bitno.. radi konstitucije nekom vise pase jedna nekom druga i koja je najbolja stoga nije moguce utvrditi gledamo li siru sliku..
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Uvjerljivije mi djeluje teorija Dr di Bella sa hormonom rasta, nego ova prejednostavna formulacija bez specifičnih doza za svaku pojedinu vrstu raka.
Malo sam iščitala o ovoj metodi koliko sam našla dostupnih izvora na meni razumljivim jezicima i moram priznati da me se baš i nije dojmila.

Blokiranje somatotropnog hormona ili hormona rasta mi nije nešto bi smatrala korisnim. Mi ga u organizmu imamo i on se treba lučiti. Nema regeneracije organizma ako nema ovog hormona. To što je Di Bell našao vezu da on istovremeno pobuđuje i rast stanica raka, uz sve ostale stanice, i to na temelju uočene veze da su djeca koja su primala hormon rasta kasnije oboljela od raka, nije mi dovoljno da bih opravdala blokiranje rada ovog hormona. Tko zna što su sve još djeca imala slično u svom ponašanju što je moglo potaći razvoj raka?

Blokiranje lučenja hormona rasta da bi se time spriječio i rast stanica raka, nije mi način suzbijanja uzroka, već samo blokiranje procesa. Ovo me podsjetilo na sličnu stvar koju sam čitala o nekim lijekovima za osteoporozu. Oni su utjecali na spriječavanje procesa propadanja kostiju, ali su takvom blokadom zaustavili i proces regeneracije kostiju koja je neophodna kod svakog čovjeka, a kod oboljelih od osteoporoze još i više.

Di Bell u svom protokolu liječenja raka koristi i Endoxan čiji je sastojak ciklosfamid, jak citostatik. Što rade citostatici orgnizmu mislim da nije potrebno posebno naglašavati, pa nisam baš na čisto gdje bi smjestila ovu metodu , u konvencionalne ili alternativne.


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