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Nepročitano 14-09-15, 18:58   #31
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Sve to što tamo piše o tom primjeru je naručika i platila farmacija, koja uvjek ima love do krova....
Nemojte ljudi svemu tome vjerovati ovaj zapis je (sigurna sam) plačan velikim parama.
Svi ovi neki svjedoci, susjedi što su sve vidjeli....kako može kemoterapija da pomaže, još nikime nije-TO JE ČISTI OTROV!
Ja ne znam da je to itko proživio.
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Što se tiče primjera moga brata i mnogih primjera za koje osobno poznajem ljude, kemoterapija, ciljana imunoterapija i presađivanje matičnih stanica koje se rade u našim hrvatskim bolnicama, osobito na Rebru i Dubravi, su sigurno učinkovite u slučaju hematoloških bolesti poput limfoma (a i leukemija se dosta liječi i prevodi u stanje kronične bolesti s dugotrajnim preživljenjem).

To nije nikakva reklama, niti plaćeni oglasi farmaceutskih tvrtki, nego istina koja se može provjeriti.

Moj brat ima Hodgkinov limfom, bolest mu se skoro u potpunosti povukla, a vi možete pričati što hoćete.

Meni je važno da je on dobro i na putu potpunog izlječenja.

Roditelje koji uskrate maloljetnom djetetu liječenje klasičnom metodom medicine i to suglasjem više liječnika ili konzilija potvrđene metode, bih kazneno gonila.
Roditelji svoju "kompetenciju" oko liječenja mogu samo provoditi na sebi.
No, ne daj Bože ni to.


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Sve to što tamo piše o tom primjeru je naručika i platila farmacija, koja uvjek ima love do krova....
Nemojte ljudi svemu tome vjerovati ovaj zapis je (sigurna sam) plačan velikim parama.
Svi ovi neki svjedoci, susjedi što su sve vidjeli....kako može kemoterapija da pomaže, još nikime nije-TO JE ČISTI OTROV!
Ja ne znam da je to itko proživio.
Lako je govoriti o liječenju raka dok ga nemaš, a istovremeno si ne moći niti prišt izliječiti.

Svaki rak je bolest za sebe. I nisam pobornik konvencionalne medicine, ali treba sve provjeriti i sve izvagati.

Jer su čak i određeni alternativni liječenici za taj limfom rekli da je uspješnost liječenja visoka 70 %.


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Svaki rak je bolest za sebe. I nisam pobornik konvencionalne medicine, ali treba sve provjeriti i sve izvagati.
Ja sam puno više za klasičnu medicinu, nego za alternativnu.
Sad sam se uvjerila svojim očima gdje je bratu tumor bio 11 cm, a nakon 4 kemoterapije je pao na 4,8 cm.

Nije svaki liječnik maher za propisat adekvatnu kemoterapiju. Dijagnostika mora biti vrhunski precizna da bi se propisala adekvatna terapija, a onda je učinak liječenja poprilično visok...u slučaju ovakvih bolesti.

Prvi put u životu sam rekla "Hvala Amerikancima koji rade takva istraživanja, koji su razvili iznimno kvalitetne lijekove (pametne lijekovi koji djeluju ciljano) i hvala našoj domovini Hrvatskoj koji uvoze te lijekove i plaćaju liječenje hrvatskim državljanima tako skupu terapiju. (HZZO).



Jedan ciklus takve eBEACOPP kemoterapije košta sigurno nekih 3000 eura, moj brat ih je dobio 6.

Hvala moj dragoj domovini Hrvatskoj!
Hvala KBC-u Rebro, odjelu Hematologije. Hvala Jordanovcu.
Hvala ljudima koji su cijelo vrijeme molili i koji se još uvijek mole za mog brata.

Hvala liječnicima koji znaju "utući" veliki osobni novac i vrijeme u strane specijalizacije koje spašavaju živote naših ljudi.
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Drago mi je da ti je bratu bolje i da se pokazuje poboljšanje, no liječenje ni izdaleka nije završeno dok postoji makar jedna kancerozna stanica. Tako da ishod (i uspjeh takvog liječenja) još treba vidjeti.

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Biti ce dobro

Klasicna medicina i alternativa trebaju se nadopunjavati, a ne iskljucivati. Vazna je volja i nada sto je jako tesko jer asocijacija bilo svjesna ili podsvjesna sa rijeci rak, metastaze jeste vjerojatnija smrt. A to je samo uvjerenje ne istina. Jedna moja prijateljica, nazalost preminula je od raka. Borila se klasicnom med. i alternativom. Bila je u fazi poboljsanja, lijecnici su smatrali malim cudom, nadala se, borila. Kontrola, doktor cita nalaze i spominje metastaze. Doktore, nesto ste pogrijesili, nisam imala metastaze. Ne gospodo nisam, evo to su Vasi nalazi prije 8 mjeseci, metastaze posvuda . Bili su to nalazi koji greskom nisu dosli do moje prijateljice. Kud srece da nisu ni tog dana. Nakon tog saznanja, bolest se rapidno prosirila u kratkom roku, jer borba protiv raka imala je smisla, ali protiv metastaza, za to nije imala snage.... Koliko je vazan taj psiholoski moment, vjera i povjerenje.
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Bit ćete obaviješteni što god bude.
Nadam se da će biti dobro.
Još uvijek je živ, i to je najvažnija stvar.
Ako je tako dobro reagirao na terapiju, postoji dvostruka mogućnost da, čak i, nadživi sve one koji nikad nisu imali tumor.
Znam osobu koja je odbila hemoterapiju i, već tri decenije, življa je od svojih normalnih vršnjaka, jer svako tijelo reagira na svoj način.
Ali mi je poznato i 90 % onih koji su se napravili hrabrima i nisu dugo čekali da ih smrt zagrli.
Kao i u vezi svih drugih bolesti, i tumor nije pobijeđen sve dok 100 % nije izliječen: a tu stoodstotnost ti teško može pokazati i najsvršenija medicinska oprema.
Jedina je razlika što maligni tumor nosi veliku potenciju da neliječenjem rezultira mortalitetom, ali i mnoge druge, i najbalnije, bolesti nisu pobijeđene sve dok njihov izvor nije u potpunosti iskorijenjen: jedna gripa, pogotovo u starijem dobu, ako nije pravilno sanirana, može se udvostručeno vratiti i imati letalan ishod, pa je dobro popiti aspirin, iako prijespomenuti, također, može izazvati nuspojave i kontraindikacije ozbiljnih razmjera.
Gerontološki, nakon 85. god. svi imamo, latentno i na ćelijskoj ravni, maligni tumor: i onaj ga ima ko te uvjerava da je guru i iscjelitelj, jer su majka priroda i njena evolucija, uz našu genetiku, tako uredile.
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