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Nepročitano 13-06-12, 20:12   #201
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Razlika između ionskog i koloidnog srebra. Hmmmmm..... I na ovom forumu, na više mjesta postoje odgovori na ovo pitanje, stoga evo vrlo kratko:
Ioni su sitnije čestice srebra (radi se o milijuntim dijelovima milimetra), koloidi znatno krupnije. Ione srebra krv nosi do svake stanice, gdje, zbog malih dimenzija bez problema prolazi kroz staničnu opnu i ubija patogene (ako ih u stanici ima). Koloidi, dakle krupnije čestice srebra to ne mogu, pa se koloidne otopine koriste za vanjsku uporabu, gdje koncentracija srebra treba biti bar dvostruko veća (min. 15 ppm).

Djelovanje ionskog ili koloidnog srebra komercijalnih proizvođaća ne bih komentirao, jer njima je kod proizvodnje osnovni motiv novac (čast iznimkama), pa proizvode brzo, a tad obično trpi kvaliteta.

Nadam se da do sada ima rezultata kod rješavanje tegoba na ruci, ali trebaš znati da ti za vanjsku uporabu treba ionsko srebro od najmanje 15 ppm-a, a po mogućnosti i veće koncentracije. Ako ju nemaš, napravi si neku vrstu obloga, da bi bolno mjesto non stop bilo tretirano otopinom srebra, u čemu i je bit. Pozdrav.
Sorry, boldao sam ono u čemu nisi u pravu.
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Sorry, boldao sam ono u čemu nisi u pravu.
Svatko ima pravo na svoje mišljenje i svaka tebi čast, ali to što tvrdiš, TVRDIŠ SAMO TI i postavljaš se, blago rečeno, kao neki car ili bar sudac. Potkrijepi svoje tvrdnje dokazima.
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a - Escherichia coli
b - Escherichia Coli rezistentna na ampicillin
c - Salmonella typhirezistentna na više lijekova
d - Staphylococcus aureus

Iz navedenog jasno se vidi učinkovitost srebra ovisno o veličini čestica.

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Ione srebra krv nosi do svake stanice, gdje, zbog malih dimenzija bez problema prolazi kroz staničnu opnu i ubija patogene (ako ih u stanici ima). Koloidi, dakle krupnije čestice srebra to ne mogu, pa se koloidne otopine koriste za vanjsku uporabu, gdje koncentracija srebra treba biti bar dvostruko veća (min. 15 ppm).
Potpuno je nelogično zašto bismo krupnije čestice (koloidno srebro) koristili na koži ako znamo da su sitnije čestice učinkovitije?!?
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U većini slučajeva gljivice se neće rješit niti koloidnim niti ionskim srebrom. Bakterije sigurno da kao i neki virusi.

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a - Escherichia coli
b - Escherichia Coli rezistentna na ampicillin
c - Salmonella typhirezistentna na više lijekova
d - Staphylococcus aureus

Iz navedenog jasno se vidi učinkovitost srebra ovisno o veličini čestica.



Potpuno je nelogično zašto bismo krupnije čestice (koloidno srebro) koristili na koži ako znamo da su sitnije čestice učinkovitije?!?

Tvoji dijagrami ništa ne dokazuju (nit' se što vidi, a i ja tebi mogu nacrtati dijagram kakav god želiš) i nisam rekao da su koloidi kod vanjske primjene učinkovitiji, već da se mogu koristiti, dok u tijelu baš i ne djeluju. Ako u čaši imaš vode koja je puna bakterija, pobit će ih i u vodu umočena srebrena žlica, stoga ne pravi preveliku nauku oko toga, jer kad radiš ionsko srebro, ionako pojma nemaš što si napravio. Uz to, svima nam je poznato koliko se većina onih koji prodaju ionsko srebro, trude proizvesti ga s manje koloida. Važno je raditi što brže, a što ljudi kupuju i piju, zaboli ih.... Naravno, nisu svi takvi, pa svaka čast iznimkama.
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Vidiš, ja sam očita iznimka u tvojoj tezi o tome tko proizvodi kakvo srebro, jer kao što možeš vidjeti, ja to mogu dokazati in vivo.

Dalje, jasno sam ti pokazao mađuzavisnost veličine čestica i učinkovitosti. Izjavljivati da dijagrami ništa ne dokazuju i da si ih i sam mogao nacrtati jednostavno izlazi iz okvira konstruktivnog dijaloga, pogotovo uzevši u obzir da nisi ni pitao za izvor i da sam nisi predočio nikakve dokaze za koje p(r)ozivaš mene a koje sam ti i predočio.

Na kraju nisi odgovorio na pitanje zašto bismo koloidno srebro koristili na koži ako znamo da su sitnije čestice učinkovitije! Istina, odgovorio si da možemo koristiti i da ne kažeš da su koloidi kod vanjeske primjene učinkovitiji ali i dalje nisi odgovorio na pitanje!
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U većini slučajeva gljivice se neće rješit niti koloidnim niti ionskim srebrom. Bakterije sigurno da kao i neki virusi.
Naravno da hoće, ali neće sve
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Naravno da hoće, ali neće sve
Žao mi je ali moja iskustva se ne slažu sa tvojom tvrdnjom. A isto tako ni osobe koje su pokušavale riješiti gljivična razno razna oboljenja nisu ih rješili sa srebrom. Dosta sam istraživala o tome i dosta ljudi koji su željeli probali smo no nije išlo. I zato se ne mogu složit s tvojom tvrdnjom oko bilo kojih oblika gljivica.

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...ne mogu složit s tvojom tvrdnjom oko bilo kojih oblika gljivica.
Nisam to rekao.
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Vidiš, ja sam očita iznimka u tvojoj tezi o tome tko proizvodi kakvo srebro, jer kao što možeš vidjeti, ja to mogu dokazati in vivo.

Dalje, jasno sam ti pokazao mađuzavisnost veličine čestica i učinkovitosti. Izjavljivati da dijagrami ništa ne dokazuju i da si ih i sam mogao nacrtati jednostavno izlazi iz okvira konstruktivnog dijaloga, pogotovo uzevši u obzir da nisi ni pitao za izvor i da sam nisi predočio nikakve dokaze za koje p(r)ozivaš mene a koje sam ti i predočio.

Na kraju nisi odgovorio na pitanje zašto bismo koloidno srebro koristili na koži ako znamo da su sitnije čestice učinkovitije! Istina, odgovorio si da možemo koristiti i da ne kažeš da su koloidi kod vanjeske primjene učinkovitiji ali i dalje nisi odgovorio na pitanje!

Jesi ti neki svadljivi tip. Kao pijan plota si se uhvatio i pretjeruješ se sam sa sobom u vezi koloida. Nigdje nisam napisao da su koloidi bolji od iona kod vanjske uporabe, što ti non stop forsiraš. U vezi tvojih dokaza ću samo navesti staru narodnu koja kaže: " Jedna lasta ne čini proljeće!", a u vezi tvog ionskog srebra drugu koja kaže: " Svaki cigo svoga konja hvali!" Tvoje mišljnje u vezi onog što sam napisao, stvarno mi je nebitno, U postu sam odgovorio na postavljeno pitanje, što ti očito nisi htio. Ovom našu prepisku završavam, jer svakog koga ova prepiska zanima, jasno će vidjeti o čemu se tu radi.
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