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mozda nije prikladno mjesto za temu ovakvog naziva..spremah rucak i dohvatih ...

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mozda nije prikladno mjesto za temu ovakvog naziva..spremah rucak i dohvatih likvi...kontam, sve cista hemija.Dakle, nije u skladu sa prirodom.
Kako su ljudi prije prali sudje?
Ima li ko podataka o ovome....eventualna alternativa sto se da smuckat u kucnoj radinosti??
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Nano u pravu si ja toliko mrzim te hemikalije i ne upotrebljavam ih u velikim količinama.Sjećam se da je moja svekrva pričala kako su prije ribale posuđe pijeskom to umjesto vima...ma sve se sjajilo.A dok sam bila dijete baka je govorila da su oni u davna vremena, pravili sapun i deterdžent od neke smjese koja uključuje životinjsko maslo i sodu. pa bi još u to dodavali i pepeo od drva.Budući da se nekad stalno ložila vatra toga je bilo na pretek.Kažu da je bilo efikasno?? A soda inače super čisti ja sam izribala kuhinjske ormariće ma znaš kako super.
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Nepročitano 26-08-09, 18:11   #3
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e, svinjska loj u slavoniji.....radje hemiju koristim :)
eh, lozim ja vatru i dan danas :)
soda bikarbona?
eh...sad sam u zurbi, al moracu guglat.Dobro si me podsjetila, eh ja i memorija...rece ona na nekom postu kak je pala u komu da nista ne pamti...eh...
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Nepročitano 26-08-09, 23:18   #4
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Ima li ko podataka o ovome....eventualna alternativa sto se da smuckat u kucnoj radinosti??
Planiram kupiti ovo:


http://www.mulberry-health.com/PROD/AMPD.html
Piše da je Eko. Može se nabaviti i u Hrvatskoj.

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Nepročitano 27-08-09, 09:36   #5
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Imate Frosch proizvode,nisu testirani na zivotinjama i prirodni i blagi ali snazni.

(blagi ali snazni hehehe)
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Nepročitano 27-08-09, 16:33   #6
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hm...a kako bas znas da nisu testirani....obmane su divna stvar, posebno za litru necega sto naplacuje poslije 100 cuna plus postarina...kad obmanjuju ljude, a slabe su njihove spletke, pa napadaju drzave i narode, truju na razne nacine, sto ne bi stvarali extra profit sa pisljivom naljepnicom eco il nije testirano na zivotinjama (znaci li to da se testira na ljudima).
Nista od navedenog...sigurno ima neki drugi nacin, recept.Mora da ima :)
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hm...a kako bas znas da nisu testirani....obmane su divna stvar, posebno za litru necega sto naplacuje poslije 100 cuna plus postarina...kad obmanjuju ljude, a slabe su njihove spletke, pa napadaju drzave i narode, truju na razne nacine, sto ne bi stvarali extra profit sa pisljivom naljepnicom eco il nije testirano na zivotinjama (znaci li to da se testira na ljudima).
Nista od navedenog...sigurno ima neki drugi nacin, recept.Mora da ima :)

Udruga Prijatelji zivotinja za proizvode za koje tvrdi da nisu testirani na zivotinjama i koje se mogu pronaci na bijeloj listi na webu ili tiskanim materijalima Udruge stoji iza recenoga a provjerava se na nacin da se salje upitnik tvrtkama.
Tvrtke koje kazu da ne testiraju svoje proizvode stoje iza toga i zaista je tako.
Takoder postoji zakon koji ih tereti da moraju govoriti istinu kao inspekcije koje zaista rade svoj posao.Testiranja se vrse na modelima kompjuterskim,mikroorganizmima,raznim bojama itd.Koja su sigurna i i tocna.
Takoder se vrse i na ljudskim dobrovoljcima.
Neeticka metoda i zastarjela na zivotinjama treba biti zakonom zabranjena.
I vjerujem u dan kada ce se zivotinje prestati muciti i ubijati radi kozmetike.
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jedan je govorio da jedna zemlja ima nuklearno oruzje, pa u to ime pobi ljude..na milione, svaki dan...nikakvi ljudski zakoni ih ne sprijecise.
usmjerenje kritike....primjer imas u Beppe Grillo, glumac, komedijas...izvodi ljude na skupove,pricao protiv politicara i slicne klike...tako je trajalo par godina dok nije stekao reputaciju "borca protiv"....a onda o njima poslije ni rijeci nije rekao, ispalo je da ga oni financiraju preko "ne vladinih" organizacija...ko staji iza te organizacije humanitarne? covjek koji je bio vlasnik, posta i telekomunikacija, i koji ima tako na stotine tako tih krupnih firmi...i banaka...i koji ima i druge humanitarne organizacije, koje se bave rasnom cistocom, razvojem genetskog inzinjeringa, stvaranjem novog drustva, sa futuristickim vizijama novog covjeka, sa novom religijom, novim organima, novim covjekom, itd...
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Drustvo potrosac....covjek bio zastavnik u jna i u sluzbi jel.
organizacija seljaka....bivsi boksac..
a ti imas privid...Stos je u kreiranju privida, obmane.
kontas sad?
os to ti uzet neki proizvod i ic npr, gledat jel ima gmo hrane? neces....nit mozes, vjerovaces etiketi. Piff, etiketa.
vic je u uvjerenju, a njega ce kreirati ljudi zaduzeni za usmjeravanje kritike, ljudi koji imaju etiketu "borca protiv"
svaka njihova firma ima za cilj profit...ne vjerujem ja njima nista, a najgore sto nista ne mozes dokazat.
kamo srece da je tako....al imam osjecaj da nije....
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Nazalost to je tako u danasnje vrijeme,da nismo vise sigurni ni u sto.
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