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Nepročitano 08-02-19, 16:10   #281
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Sol je neophodna za život pa se ne može potpuno izbaciti ali se mogu izbaciti rafinirani proizvodi.
Mislim da nije stvar u soli nego u aditivima i konzervansima koji se dodaju svim gotovim proizvodima s polica.

Ja jedem isključivo svježe pripremljeno, ništa industrijski zgotovljeno, nisam vegan ali ne jedem meso ni mlječne proizvode, kao ni gluten pa onda ni tjestenine, kruh i sl., niti jedem kolače i slatko - osim prirodnih slatkoća tipa banana ili datulje.

Sol koristim normalno, himalajsku i morsku, a koristim i hrpu svakakvih prirodnih začina i začinskih biljaka i trava.


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Sol je neophodna za život pa se ne može potpuno izbaciti ali se mogu izbaciti rafinirani proizvodi.
Mislim da nije stvar u soli nego u aditivima i konzervansima koji se dodaju svim gotovim proizvodima s polica.

Ja jedem isključivo svježe pripremljeno, ništa industrijski zgotovljeno, nisam vegan ali ne jedem meso ni mlječne proizvode, kao ni gluten pa onda ni tjestenine, kruh i sl., niti jedem kolače i slatko - osim prirodnih slatkoća tipa banana ili datulje.

Sol koristim normalno, himalajsku i morsku, a koristim i hrpu svakakvih prirodnih začina i začinskih biljaka i trava.
Neophodna?.. to mi je diskutabilno Ja je ne jedem uopce. Znaci kolicina je itekako bitna. Mi ljudi ocito nismo u mogucnosti procijeniti koliko nam treba i zasto..


Kad kazem diskutabilno tu sad pocinju rasprave o organskim i anorganskim mineralima.. il kako god to vec nasi zovu. Vidio sam hrpe tekstova o tome da li je bitno sto je organsko ili ne ili je bitna samo velicina cestica,atoma, molekula.. joj svasta tu ima, kad se probam sjetit glava me boli

Trebala bi mi hrpa vrhunskih kemicara da to sve prouce

Prica ide tako da kazu da samo biljke mogu preraditi anorganske minerale u organske itd.. a sol je uvijek NaCl, ne moze se razdvojiti klor od natrija u tijelu bez obzira na vodu za otapanje itd itd.. Kad voda ispari opet ostaje kristal jel.. sve je to veoma zbunjujuce..

Znaci tko je i na temelju cega zakljucio da je bas sol najbolji izvor natrija i klora i to bas u tom obliku? Znaci klor ide sa natrijem posvuda u tijelu i to nicemu ne smeta?.. da mi se te osobe dohvatit, cuo/la bi me

Jer naravno postoje i drugi oblici natrija i klora tj. u spoju s drugim elementima, po cemu je taj spoj tolko poseban osim sto ga ima na svakom uglu danas..

Znam nisam kemicar pa da ne brbljam jos dalje, al vidis kolko pitanja tu jos ima



Ok. Nego, imas li ti kakvih problema s kozom ili drugim bolestima?


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Zanimljivo. Htio bih te samo nesto pitati.. jedes li sol? Ili hranu kojoj je dodana sol, tipa kruh, tijesta ili nesto trece?

Jedem sol, da. I himalajsku i morsku. Tjestenine, peciva, kruhove izbjegavam, iako sama radim gluten free kruh za muža, ali jako malo ga pojedem.

Trudim se jesti što više sirovo, prirodno, nepreradeno, sezonsko ako je ikako moguće, većina te sirove hrane uopće ne traži dodavanje soli.


Da mi je bit plankton, pa da svitlin noću dok se oko mene kitovi koprcaju.



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Jedem sol, da. I himalajsku i morsku. Tjestenine, peciva, kruhove izbjegavam, iako sama radim gluten free kruh za muža, ali jako malo ga pojedem.

Trudim se jesti što više sirovo, prirodno, nepreradeno, sezonsko ako je ikako moguće, većina te sirove hrane uopće ne traži dodavanje soli.

Ok..a sad podpitanja..

Puno ili dodas samo prstohvat tu i tamo? Jel ju jedes svaki dan?


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Ok..a sad podpitanja..

Puno ili dodas samo prstohvat tu i tamo? Jel ju jedes svaki dan?

Jedem ju svaki dan, jer imam svaki dan neki kuhani obrok, ili pečeni. Dodajem prstohvat, dva, tri, ovisi šta spremam 😉


Da mi je bit plankton, pa da svitlin noću dok se oko mene kitovi koprcaju.



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Jedem ju svaki dan, jer imam svaki dan neki kuhani obrok, ili pečeni. Dodajem prstohvat, dva, tri, ovisi šta spremam ��

Ah.. eto.. znaci iz tog dijela ne mozemo nikakav zakljucak izvuci..osim mozda kolicine..
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Ok. Nego, imas li ti kakvih problema s kozom ili drugim bolestima?
Nikakvih problema s kožom i soli jedem baš dosta. Nemam ni problema s tlakom, srcem, bubrezima ili sl.

NaCl je i jedan od neophodnih elektrolita (natrij, kalij, kalcij, magnezij, klorid, hidrogen fosfat i hidrogenkarbonat), pa zaista ne razumijem što bi tu bilo diskutabilno ako se razumije način funkcioniranja izmjene tvari. Nema se tu što sumnjati - metabolizam elektrolita je jasno objašnjen.

Uloga elektrolita i njihova ravnoteža su od višestruke važnosti za ljudsko tijelo jer reguliraju ravnotežu tekućine, održavaju pH krvi, te funkciju mišića i živaca. Važni su za hormonalnu ravnotežu, enzimske reakcije, iskoristivost glukoze, koštanu masu, funkcije probavnog trakta, krvni tlak, funkcioniranje bubrega te izgradnju i regeneraciju tkiva.

Svaki od elektrolita ima određenu funkciju u organizmu, pa je tako natrij (koji je pozitivan ion) zadužen za regulaciju tekućina u tijelu a važan je i za održavanje funkcija mišića i živaca, te za apsorpciju glukoze, aminokiselina i pojedinih vitamina. Izvor natrija je sol, voće i povrće.

Cl je negativni ion i on održava ravnotežu i pH tjelesnih tekućina te regulira probavu i održavanje zdravlja mišića i živaca. Izvori klorida su sol i neprerađena, prirodna hrana.


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Nikakvih problema s kožom i soli jedem baš dosta. Nemam ni problema s tlakom, srcem, bubrezima ili sl.

NaCl je i jedan od neophodnih elektrolita (natrij, kalij, kalcij, magnezij, klorid, hidrogen fosfat i hidrogenkarbonat), pa zaista ne razumijem što bi tu bilo diskutabilno ako se razumije način funkcioniranja izmjene tvari. Nema se tu što sumnjati - metabolizam elektrolita je jasno objašnjen.

Uloga elektrolita i njihova ravnoteža su od višestruke važnosti za ljudsko tijelo jer reguliraju ravnotežu tekućine, održavaju pH krvi, te funkciju mišića i živaca. Važni su za hormonalnu ravnotežu, enzimske reakcije, iskoristivost glukoze, koštanu masu, funkcije probavnog trakta, krvni tlak, funkcioniranje bubrega te izgradnju i regeneraciju tkiva.

Svaki od elektrolita ima određenu funkciju u organizmu, pa je tako natrij (koji je pozitivan ion) zadužen za regulaciju tekućina u tijelu a važan je i za održavanje funkcija mišića i živaca, te za apsorpciju glukoze, aminokiselina i pojedinih vitamina. Izvor natrija je sol, voće i povrće.

Cl je negativni ion i on održava ravnotežu i pH tjelesnih tekućina te regulira probavu i održavanje zdravlja mišića i živaca. Izvori klorida su sol i neprerađena, prirodna hrana.

Ma sve to lijepo zvuci, al cak i u najboljem slucaju muci me kolicina koju pojedemo ako dodajemo jos i sami svojom voljom.


Samo pokusavam shvatiti zasto mi tijelo reagira na takav nacin, a s obzirom kolko je ova kozna bolest rasirena velika je mogucnost da nisam jedini.. a tko zna sto je s ostalim bolestima i to ne samo koznim..



Ne znam sve ovo prevesti, nisam ni sve kopirao, pa ako ti se da citati.. trebao bi mi jos jedan osobni znanstvenik da mi to sve protumaci.. a kamoli istrazivanja..

https://www.science20.com/entropy_an...ciences-120016





Ignored (non-communicable) knowledges and bad education overall, and in the health science too. The law of entropy is the fiercest enemy of life and is our fiercest enemy too. The sodium-chloride isn't food for humans, but is the perfect food of entropy. The spontaneous diffusion of sodium ions into the cells and the diffusion of potassium ions out of the cells, enhances the entropy (the measure of disorder).


And every mmol excess sodium and the wrong sodium/potassium ratio (and other wrong ratios) increases more the entropy in our body, in every cells. The task of the continuously working sodium-potassium pump to keep constant the intracellular concentration of Na and K ions. These cellular pumps continuously use energy of ATP molecules.


"The activity of Na-K pump has been estimated to account for 20-40 % of the resting energy expenditure in a typical adult." (1) Some consequences of high sodium intake; the specialists talk about these rarely or never: Higher energy requirements (energy expenditure) for Na-K pump and kidney. All the rest of our vital processes (functional processes of the cells) receive less energy - because the metabolic rate (speed and capacity of enzyme reactions, oxygen supply, etc.) is limited. And the excess sodium intake do not increase the oxidative pathway. But, a critical surplus switches the anaerobic glycolysis on, in our every cells. This can be named: Sodium-Induced Cellular Anaerobic Glycolysis (SICAG).


I think (it is logical) this is a very old anaerobic cellular mechanism, before free oxygen on Earth. We produce lactic acid in our every cells. Consequently, all of our vital processes and organs work worse (our heart, brain, regulating systems, immune system, etc.), and our cells are dying. Remains less energy for the regeneration. We burn the candle on both of his ends (aerobic and anaerobic). The average lifetime of our cells shortens. Soon (faster) the telomeres run out. Our aging accelerates. We get sick often and we will die soon.

Logical consequence; the unnecessary sodium increases the incidence of all illnesses.

Searching in 12 book set of Dietary Reference Intakes (more than 5000 pages, and about 600 references in the chapter; Sodium and Chloride) no hits for entropy, and the sodium-potassium pump is only some empty phrases. (2) The blind watchmaker learned well the physics first, then the chemistry, and dealt with biochemistry then only. But he never forgot what he learned already once. The optimal Na/K ratio and the ratio between sum of alkaline metals and sum of polyvalent metals, and the ratio between alkaline metals and energy content, etc. is in the human milk.

From every viewpoint, the human milk is an evolutionary perfect food, including the minimal energy expenditure of the Na-K pump and kidney of the babies (= possible minimum entropy-transfer into the babies = the baby is growing healthily and with maximal economicalness).

Thus, the human milk is the perfect guide to calculate the optimal adult intakes. Unfortunate, that these exist only in traces, in the scientific literature. And in some articles, even the traces are concealed. This is the real wicked problem of health sciences, and this is wronger than malignant neglect. I collected the most important evidences (the traces, and lack of the traces) of the above ones. Let us see it in a logical and nearly chronological order.

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1985. Henningsen: The sodium pump and energy regulation: some new aspects for essential hypertension, diabetes II and severe overweight. (7)
Again I quote (the abstract): "There is a growing evidence for that in modern societies the function of the cellular sodium-potassium pump (membrane-bound Na+ K+ ATPase) in several tissues in man cannot respond adequately to demands. This is not seen in any other free-living vertebrates on this earth. The clearly unphysiological very high intake of sodium-chloride (salt) and also alcohol is definitely playing an important role in the development of the common degenerating metabolic aberrations, e.g. essential hypertension, diabetes II and severe overweight, in man. The special and overall important role of the sodium-potassium pump for optimal cellular function and regeneration with special reference to the vascular tissues is presented and discussed."
Oops, the floor gas sodium-potassium pump (anaerobic turbo pump) is not enough, our cells are dying. And this was clear in 1985!


1991. Nedergaard et al.: Acid-induced death in neurons and glia. (8)
From the article: "Cerebral hypoxia-ischemia induces lactic acid formation trough the accentuation of anaerobic glycolysis. The magnitude of this lactic acid accumulation depends largely upon the preischemic glucose and glycogen concentrations of the affected tissue (Smith et al., 1986). Local accumulation of lactic acid to cytotoxic levels may play a causal role in the genesis of brain infarction following cerebral ischemia (Meyerand Yamaguchi, 1977; Siemkowitz and Hansen, 1978; Pulsinelli et al., 1982; Nedergaard, 1987). Several authors have addressed directly the issue of acid-induced cell death."
And the excess sodium intake (floor gas Na-K pump) also induces lactic acid formation by switching the anaerobic glycolysis (SICAG) on. And our cells are dying, even in our brain. The salted humanity degenerates and will be idiotic.



I can suppose, anaerobic glycolysis begin in an average 70 kg adult from ~ 6-7 g dose of salt. I would dare to bet, that this was examined in similar (but oral) human experiments already, but where are the results? Furthermore, from the above results roughly calculable: the salted humanity squanders the energy of at least 100 million tons of food annually, to get rid of the sodium swallowed unnecessarily. We overeat (devour), we get fat, we get sick, and we die, while millions are starving on Earth.


2005. Meneton et al.: Links between dietary salt intake, renal salt handling, blood pressure, and cardiovascular diseases. (11)
From the abstract: "The mechanisms by which dietary salt increases arterial pressure are not fully understood, but they seem related to the inability of the kidneys to excrete large amounts of salt. From an evolutionary viewpoint, the human species is adapted to ingest and excrete < 1 g of salt per day, at least 10 times less than the average values currently observed in industrialized and urbanized countries."
Is valuable the evolutionary viewpoint in the article, but 40 years after Klahr&Bricker and 20 years after Henningsen, why "not fully understood"?


2011. Dickinson et al.: Endothelial function is impaired after a high-salt meal in healthy subjects. (12)
From the article: However, the mechanisms relating salt and endothelial dysfunction are still not clear.”
26 years after Henningsen, why "still not clear"? The progress of the science has been stopped!



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https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h4962/rr-5
https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h4962/rr-45


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"....When Zielinkski’s team exposed naive Th cells in a petri dish to high doses of sodium, the cells dove strongly toward a Th2 response. That’s important because Th2 responses “have been primarily implicated in allergic diseases, such as asthma and atopic dermatitis,” Kolls said.

But the salt doesn’t stop there — it continues to enhance inflammatory reactions even after the Th2 cells have matured. That may explain why researchers found patches of skin with high salt corresponded with eczema. Biopsies of eczema lesions contained 30 times the amount of salt relative to skin tissue removed from healthy subjects.


To a lesser degree, a portion of the naive T-helper cells also veered toward becoming Th17 — raising the specter of a Yale University study published six years ago on salt and another autoimmune disease: multiple sclerosis. That study found mice who were fed high-salt diets developed more severe brain inflammation in a model of multiple sclerosis. An overabundant Th17 response has also been implicated in psoriasis, another autoimmune disease.

Both Zielinski’s study on eczema and the Yale study on multiple sclerosis isolated one particular enzyme — called SGK1 — as being involved, which Kolls described as “interesting.” SGK1 is known to be a sensor for sodium levels inside of kidney cells, which keep tabs on salt levels pumping through our arteries and veins.
Zielinski said T-helper cells may be relying on SGK1 to monitor salt in organs like the skin or lymph nodes, because sodium levels there can be much higher than what passes through the mainstream blood circulation."



"The report, published Wednesday in Science Translational Medicine, outlines a connection between consuming table salt and the aggravation of T-helper cells — members of our immune system that sometimes run amok. When they do, T-helper cells can cause hyperactive inflammation and breed allergy-based illnesses, such as arthritis, asthma and eczema.

The scientists discovered that the level of salt we eat as part of a Western diet causes T-helper cells to launch the renegade inflammatory responses that occur with chronic allergies. With eczema, this mayhem appears to happen directly in the skin; the team found salt accumulation was 30 times higher in the skin of eczema patients versus normal people.

Allergies have steadily increased in human populations over the last 50 years, and past research has pointed the finger at changes in human habits and our environment. But because our diets also became unhealthier over this timeframe, now these scientists are thinking, maybe it was just salt all along."


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