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Nepročitano 25-10-10, 08:55   #101
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Sesta godina je, a pravde za Denisa jos nema... ZASTO?

Zato sto "ruka ruku mije" .
Nazalost, ne samo u BiH, ovi balkanski prostori su slicni kao jaje jajetu.
Pratim ... ma koja je to sprega vestaka, tuzioca, sudija, lekarskih komora...
Sprega je tako uhodana, rutinska, bratska ... i ODVRATNO KRIMINALNA da nece biti cudo kada ruka nekog roditelja "poleti" po svoju pravdu?

Sve je isto...samo pravde nema...

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Od januara tuzioci "ne"mogu (???) utvrditi ima li ili ne krivice doktora? Zar nije cudno...

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Sesta godina je, a pravde za Denisa jos nema... ZASTO?

Zato sto "ruka ruku mije" .
Nazalost, ne samo u BiH, ovi balkanski prostori su slicni kao jaje jajetu.
Pratim ... ma koja je to sprega vestaka, tuzioca, sudija, lekarskih komora...
Sprega je tako uhodana, rutinska, bratska ... i ODVRATNO KRIMINALNA da nece biti cudo kada ruka nekog roditelja "poleti" po svoju pravdu?

Sve je isto...samo pravde nema...

Efikasnije sankcije za greške lekara


Jedan sarajevski primer.
Od januara tuzioci "ne"mogu (???) utvrditi ima li ili ne krivice doktora? Zar nije cudno...

Cudno je i to sto SAMO "Dnevni avaz" prati ovaj slucaj (i ja naravno).

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9...adjaarifov.jpg
"Dnevni avaz", 12.11.2010.
Brinem se za tebe Nevenka.Nadam se da ne mislis na svoju ruku.Ne vredi da za drugog ti placas .Imas i drugog sina imaces unucadi i tvoje prisustvo ce im jako trebati.Ne zelim da te zatvore nakraju.
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Brinem se za tebe Nevenka.Nadam se da ne mislis na svoju ruku.Ne vredi da za drugog ti placas .Imas i drugog sina imaces unucadi i tvoje prisustvo ce im jako trebati.Ne zelim da te zatvore nakraju.

Ne brini, Rasa! Sigurna sam da Nevenka nije mislila na sebe, odnosno, svoju ruku, već na mogućnost da neki roditelj izgubi glavu od bola zbog gubitka djeteta, a sve zbog nehaja/nemara/neznanja liječnika.

A Nevenkin jad potpuno razumijem, budući da sam i sama prije devet mjeseci zbog istog nehaja/nemara/neznanja/odluke liječnika izgubila majku. Zbog svega navedenog: nehaja/nemara/neznanja/odluke.

Još uvijek ne mogu doći k sebi od bola. I iako pokušavam funkcionirati normalno, bijes me još uvijek ne napušta. I kao i Nevenka, sigurno neću dići ruku ni na koga. Zapravo, ispravljam se - ovaj bijes i jad, tuga i nemoć su moja ruka protiv sebe same. Jer, nije u pitanju samo moja majka. Koliki su već skončali, a nisu trebali, iz istih razloga. A trenutačno se osjećam tako slabo i nemoćno da išta učinim, budući da se ne radi samo o mojoj majci.

Pitam se, tko je od nas sljedeći na redu? Zbog prirode svoje bolesti već sam nailazila, i nailazim, na odbijanje pružanja pomoći (jer se ne zna, ne želi, ne snalazi...)... i jer je sustav odlučio da se određene kategorije pacijenata više neće trošiti vrijeme, energija i novac.
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Nepročitano 24-12-10, 23:06   #108
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Možda bi bilo dobro pokrenuti internet peticiju složenu na engleski jezik i smjestit je na blog i/ili facebook pa sa te razine vršiti pritisak na vlasti u Bosni!?
Poslat priču Denisu Latinu i ostalim TV kućama u Hrv.
Nema nista od toga. Vlasti u BiH gotovo da i nema, osim kada su u pitanju njihovi koeficijenti (za plate) i pausali...cak i telefonske sednice "odrzavaju" po tom pitanju (hitno im valjda za razliku od elementarnih nepogoda).
A ni pravosudja gotovo da nema jer NIJE nezavisno, koliko god se busali da jeste.
Zato belezim pravosudne "bisere" na NJIHOVOJ stranici, no nema nikoga da bar pocrveni.

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Nema nista od toga. Vlasti u BiH gotovo da i nema, osim kada su u pitanju njihovi koeficijenti (za plate) i pausali...cak i telefonske sednice "odrzavaju" po tom pitanju (hitno im valjda za razliku od elementarnih nepogoda).
A ni pravosudja gotovo da nema jer NIJE nezavisno, koliko god se busali da jeste.
Zato belezim pravosudne "bisere" na NJIHOVOJ stranici, no nema nikoga da bar pocrveni.

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Ne brini, Rasa! Sigurna sam da Nevenka nije mislila na sebe, odnosno, svoju ruku, već na mogućnost da neki roditelj izgubi glavu od bola zbog gubitka djeteta, a sve zbog nehaja/nemara/neznanja liječnika.

A Nevenkin jad potpuno razumijem, budući da sam i sama prije devet mjeseci zbog istog nehaja/nemara/neznanja/odluke liječnika izgubila majku. Zbog svega navedenog: nehaja/nemara/neznanja/odluke.

Još uvijek ne mogu doći k sebi od bola. I iako pokušavam funkcionirati normalno, bijes me još uvijek ne napušta. I kao i Nevenka, sigurno neću dići ruku ni na koga. Zapravo, ispravljam se - ovaj bijes i jad, tuga i nemoć su moja ruka protiv sebe same. Jer, nije u pitanju samo moja majka. Koliki su već skončali, a nisu trebali, iz istih razloga. A trenutačno se osjećam tako slabo i nemoćno da išta učinim, budući da se ne radi samo o mojoj majci.

Pitam se, tko je od nas sljedeći na redu? Zbog prirode svoje bolesti već sam nailazila, i nailazim, na odbijanje pružanja pomoći (jer se ne zna, ne želi, ne snalazi...)... i jer je sustav odlučio da se određene kategorije pacijenata više neće trošiti vrijeme, energija i novac.
Stvarno me je zao Azizi i za tebe i za mamu i za Nevenku i za njenog sina.Sto ti je ovaj svijet!Eto uplasila sam se da si ne doda jos patnje na tanjuru.Procitala sam njen link i malo mi je jasnije ,verujem da si u pravu.Mislila je na te neke slucajeve i nije se cudila kako se to desava.Bar tako meni sad izgleda.
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