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Nepročitano 05-01-12, 19:01   #11
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Upalu zuba nije moguće ničim drugim izliječiti nego antibiotikom. Vaditi ga ne mogu jer injekcija neće primiti pa bi te boljelo toliko da bi se možda onesvijestila od bolova kod vađenja.
Nisu samo liječnici krivi, već i pacijenti. Koliko me pamćenje služi, gotovo uvijek su me pitali jesam li alergičan na penicilin.
Sad barem znaš na što si alergična.
I poznato je da antibiotici imaju nuspojavu - osim loših bakterija unište i one dobre pa se pojave problemi sa gljivama.

Upalu zuba inače je najbolje liječiti propolis kapima.
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Upalu zuba nije moguće ničim drugim izliječiti nego antibiotikom. Vaditi ga ne mogu jer injekcija neće primiti pa bi te boljelo toliko da bi se možda onesvijestila od bolova kod vađenja.
Nisu samo liječnici krivi, već i pacijenti. Koliko me pamćenje služi, gotovo uvijek su me pitali jesam li alergičan na penicilin.
Sad barem znaš na što si alergična.
I poznato je da antibiotici imaju nuspojavu - osim loših bakterija unište i one dobre pa se pojave problemi sa gljivama.

Upalu zuba inače je najbolje liječiti propolis kapima.
Testirala sam se na penicilin prije par godina, rezultat je bio negativan. Tako da mi ta alergija na Klavocin očito nije bila od pencilina.
Ima i na wikipediji nešto o tome, kao i slika tog osipa:

''Somewhere between 3% and 10% of children taking amoxicillin show a late-developing (>72 hours after beginning medication and having never taken penicillin-like medication previously), often itchy rash, which is sometimes referred to as the "amoxicillin rash." The rash can also occur in adults.

It starts on the trunk and can spread from there. This rash is unlikely to be a true allergic reaction, and is not a contraindication for future amoxicillin usage, nor should the current regimen necessarily be stopped.
However, this common amoxicillin rash and a dangerous allergic reaction cannot easily be distinguished by inexperienced persons, and therefore a healthcare professional is often required to distinguish between the two.''

A ovo je što se tiče pravog, alergijskog osipa:
''The onset of an allergic reaction to amoxicillin can be very sudden and intense - emergency medical attention must be sought as quickly as possible.
The initial onset of such a reaction often starts with a change in mental state, skin rash with intense itching (often beginning in fingertips and around groin area and rapidly spreading), and sensations of fever, nausea, and vomiting.
Any other symptoms that seem even remotely suspicious must be taken very seriously.
However, more mild allergy symptoms, such as a rash, can occur at any time during treatment, even up to a week after treatment has ceased.
For some people who are allergic to amoxicillin the side-effects can be deadly.''

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Ja sam odustala od antibiotika nakon što sam nakon 7-dnevnog korištenja Klavocina za upalu zuba dobila urtikariju po čitavom tijelu i završila na injekcijama kortikosterioda, telfastu i dijeti kako bi se ti alergeni što prije izbacili. 3 tjedna nakon prestanka korištenja antibiotika, i dalje se vide ostaci tog osipa
A o Candidi da ne govorim.

..... jesenas sam imala vrlo sličnu situaciju ...... imala sam neku upalu korijena zuba i nakon što sam se bezuspješno tjednima pokušavala riješiti upale bez antibiotika, pristala sam ga uzeti ..... isto je bio u pitanju klavocin ..... meni su se problemi pojavili već prvog dana ..... snažni probavni problemi .....

..... zubarica je rekla da ih odmah prestanem uzimati i onda smo počeli s nekim čišćenjem i liječenjem tako da je otvarala zub .... nije da nije boljelo, ali meni je bilo draže to nego da me klavocin strpa u krevet .....

..... kandidozni stomatitis i vaginitis te kolitis pratili su me još neko vrijeme .....
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kako smanjiti štetnot antibiotika, kada nemaš drugog izlaza pa jih na žalost moraš uzimati
zapper več koristim, što je sa probioticima
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evo opet glupo ispadam, kao, da nisam ništa naučila na alternativi

ali da malo pojasnim zašto antibiotici - upala mjehura se razširila na bubreg, sve skupa je več prolazilo i bolovi su se smanjili i ph urina san uspijela držati oko 7,3, dakle sve bi izgleda prošlo kako triba ali me je jučer gadno zakuhalo i nije mi preostalo ništa drugo nego, da odem do doktora, da mi otvori bolovanje
i normalno u laboratorijskim nalazim se je još vidjela upala i bakterija u vodi, tako, da je doktor rekao, da su antibiotici u mom slučaju obavezni - inači ni on ne voli diliti antibiotike
još je rekao, da me vjerovatno snašla i gripa, tako, da se sa bubregom nije za šaliti, i visoka temperatura bi mogla nanijeti štetu več i tako bolesnom bubregu
dakle ja sam na antibioticima, o nastaloj šteti ču več nešto nač poslije
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evo opet glupo ispadam, kao, da nisam ništa naučila na alternativi

ali da malo pojasnim zašto antibiotici - upala mjehura se razširila na bubreg, sve skupa je več prolazilo i bolovi su se smanjili i ph urina san uspijela držati oko 7,3, dakle sve bi izgleda prošlo kako triba ali me je jučer gadno zakuhalo i nije mi preostalo ništa drugo nego, da odem do doktora, da mi otvori bolovanje
i normalno u laboratorijskim nalazim se je još vidjela upala i bakterija u vodi, tako, da je doktor rekao, da su antibiotici u mom slučaju obavezni - inači ni on ne voli diliti antibiotike
još je rekao, da me vjerovatno snašla i gripa, tako, da se sa bubregom nije za šaliti, i visoka temperatura bi mogla nanijeti štetu več i tako bolesnom bubregu
dakle ja sam na antibioticima, o nastaloj šteti ču več nešto nač poslije
Milenaa ....ja sam prvi ZA NUŽNO ZLO ANTIBIOTIKE ,pa moja jer majka presadila srce i gde bi sada bila BEZ ANTIBIOTIKA !
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Zadani Ovo je šest smrtonosnih antibiotika od kojih morate bježati kao vrag od tamjana!

Bilo da se uzimaju oralno ili putem injekcije, mogu izazvati trajna oštećenja živaca poput periferne neuropatije, oštećenja živaca u rukama i nogama čiji su simptomi bol, peckanje, obamrlost, slabost, temperaturu smanjenje ili povećanje osjeta dodira...
Ako čujete imena ciprofloksacin, gemifloksacin, levofloksacin, moksifloksacin, norfloksacin, ofloksacin bje'žte glavom bez obzira! Riječ je o šest antibiotika koji mogu izazvati trajna oštećenja živaca, što je potvrdila američka Agencija za hranu i lijekove (FDA).

Bilo da se uzimaju oralno ili putem injekcije, mogu izazvati trajna oštećenja živaca poput periferne neuropatije, oštećenja živaca u rukama i nogama čiji su simptomi bol, peckanje, obamrlost, slabost, temperaturu smanjenje ili povećanje osjeta dodira...

Osim živaca, ovi antibiotici mogu izazvati i oštećenja tetiva te drugih organa poput bubrega, očiju, piše LewRockwell.com. Jedan od šestero antibiotika predmet je brojnih tužbi pacijenata koji su ga uzimali, jer su izazvali teške nuspojave. Vjeruje se da su ovi antibiotici, pod zajedničkim imenom fluorokinoloni, najopasniji za djecu do 18 i starije od 60 godina te za trudnice, jetrene bolesnike, šećeraše...

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