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Nepročitano 07-02-14, 16:40   #11
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Mogu samo ponoviti ono što sam napisao...što se više odmičemo od razumijevanja ljudskog bića to će nam takva naša stvarnost biti sve šokantnija.
na žalost, ja mogu prva reći da ne razumijem ni te nazovi znanstvenike, ni političare ni sve njima slične...vjerovatno neću nikada shvatiti ljudsko petljanje u sve i svašta, zbog "dobrobiti" čovječanstva i života na zemlji...dok je realnost nešto sasvim drukčije od onog što nam prezentiraju





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na žalost, ja mogu prva reći da ne razumijem ni te nazovi znanstvenike, ni političare ni sve njima slične...vjerovatno neću nikada shvatiti ljudsko petljanje u sve i svašta, zbog "dobrobiti" čovječanstva i života na zemlji...dok je realnost nešto sasvim drukčije od onog što nam prezentiraju
Puno toga ovisi o okolnostima. Npr. stalno se ponavlja ista shema po kojoj ljudi kada budu u poziciji velike moći kontrole nad slabijima postaju sve grabežljiviji i smjeliji.
Ne bih založio svoju glavu u to da se ja i ti ne bi ponašali slično u takvim okolnostima. Okolnosti oblikuju iskustva a iskustva čovjeka.
I niti jedna ljudska djelatnost nije pošteđena ljudske naravi i sklonosti.

Neprihvatljivo ponašanje pojedinaca u Znanosti se treba prepoznavat kao izraz ljudske prirode a ne izraz Znanosti. Znanost je samo skup pravila...metoda kojom se dolazi do određenih zaključaka. Besmisleno je da se ljutiš na matematiku, zar ne? :)


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Nepročitano 07-02-14, 17:43   #13
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Puno toga ovisi o okolnostima. Npr. stalno se ponavlja ista shema po kojoj ljudi kada budu u poziciji velike moći kontrole nad slabijima postaju sve grabežljiviji i smjeliji.
Ne bih založio svoju glavu u to da se ja i ti ne bi ponašali slično u takvim okolnostima. Okolnosti oblikuju iskustva a iskustva čovjeka.
I niti jedna ljudska djelatnost nije pošteđena ljudske naravi i sklonosti.

Neprihvatljivo ponašanje pojedinaca u Znanosti se treba prepoznavat kao izraz ljudske prirode a ne izraz Znanosti. Znanost je samo skup pravila...metoda kojom se dolazi do određenih zaključaka. Besmisleno je da se ljutiš na matematiku, zar ne? :)
ne vjerujem da bin išla njihovim stopama...meni su druge stvari po glavi
nitko nije vječan i ne nosi svoje bogatstvo sa sobom i ne trebaju ti silne milijarde koje za ovoga života nećeš potrošiti





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Nepročitano 07-02-14, 17:56   #14
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ne vjerujem da bin išla njihovim stopama...meni su druge stvari po glavi
nitko nije vječan i ne nosi svoje bogatstvo sa sobom i ne trebaju ti silne milijarde koje za ovoga života nećeš potrošiti

Mislim da se tu više radi o igri i izazovu.
Ako si nastrojena na osvajanje novih područja, taj poriv te prati čitav život. Stalno tražiš izazove. Stvar je okolnosti gdje će se ispražnjavati ta nabijena energija.
Ako kombinacija gena, odgoja i društvene okoline uporno provlači poruku "samo jači opstaju", sasvim prirodno bi bilo da bi se u krajnosti mogli nać u poziciji Ceausescu-a ili Miloševića. Isto vrijedi i obrnuto pa završimo kao udomitelji nezbrinute djece, medicinske sestre kojima je zaista stalo do pacjenata i mnoge druge značajne topline.


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Mislim da se tu više radi o igri i izazovu.
Ako si nastrojena na osvajanje novih područja, taj poriv te prati čitav život. Stalno tražiš izazove. Stvar je okolnosti gdje će se ispražnjavati ta nabijena energija.
Ako kombinacija gena, odgoja i društvene okoline uporno provlači poruku "samo jači opstaju", sasvim prirodno bi bilo da bi se u krajnosti mogli nać u poziciji Ceausescu-a ili Miloševića. Isto vrijedi i obrnuto pa završimo kao udomitelji nezbrinute djece, medicinske sestre kojima je zaista stalo do pacjenata i mnoge druge značajne topline.
znam ja sve to, pretpostavljam da mislimo isto, možda se drukčije izražavamo

sad ću ti postaviti jedno pitanje, nemoj se smijati

da se nađemo negdje gdje nema žive duše ljudi, ni životinja...u pitanju je opstanak, nas dvoje smo sami, ti si gladan, nema ničega, osim mene... bi li mene ispekao i pojeo ili bismo zajedno umrli od gladi????





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da se nađemo negdje gdje nema žive duše ljudi, ni životinja...u pitanju je opstanak, nas dvoje smo sami, ti si gladan, nema ničega, osim mene... bi li mene ispekao i pojeo ili bismo zajedno umrli od gladi????
Dobro pitanje.

Mislim da bi u takvoj situaciji preživjeli pojeo onoga koji bi prije umro.
Ima takvih primjera u stvarnom životu. Imaš slučaj po kojem se film radio. Argentinska rugby momčad se avionom strmoglavila negdje u Andama pa su se suočavali sa izborima o kojima govoriš.
Odličan film, Alive.

Što se tiče slučaja da smo samo nas dvoje, mislim da bi rijetko tko išao za time da ukloni jedinog suradnika kojeg ima u takvom ambijentu.
Ali ne treba zapostavit i posljedice samoprožđirajućeg organizma u teškoj gladi. Počinješ gubit razum, haluciniraš, nemaš volju za ništa osim eventualno hranom.


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Dobro pitanje.

Mislim da bi u takvoj situaciji preživjeli pojeo onoga koji bi prije umro.
Ima takvih primjera u stvarnom životu. Imaš slučaj po kojem se film radio. Argentinska rugby momčad se avionom strmoglavila negdje u Andama pa su se suočavali sa izborima o kojima govoriš.
Odličan film, Alive.

Što se tiče slučaja da smo samo nas dvoje, mislim da bi rijetko tko išao za time da ukloni jedinog suradnika kojeg ima u takvom ambijentu.
Ali ne treba zapostavit i posljedice samoprožđirajućeg organizma u teškoj gladi. Počinješ gubit razum, haluciniraš, nemaš volju za ništa osim eventualno hranom.
taj me film i podsjetio da te to i pitam vidiš da mislimo isto

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šta misliš, jesmo i mi zaraženi kojekakvim virusima raznih boleština prilikom cijepljenja???
Nemam pojma o tome. Nisam se bavio time. Nisam cijepljen od srednje škole.

Čuo sam da je par djece umrlo u posljednjem buntu protiv cjepiva a to se navodno dogodilo jer se nisu cjepila.


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Nemam pojma o tome. Nisam se bavio time. Nisam cijepljen od srednje škole.

Čuo sam da je par djece umrlo u posljednjem buntu protiv cjepiva a to se navodno dogodilo jer se nisu cjepila.
sa istog portala...da se čovjek svašta zapita...

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sa istog portala...da se čovjek svašta zapita...

http://matrixworldhr.wordpress.com/2...ju-rak-i-aids/

Ok. Najpopularniji su tekstovi koji su protiv cjepiva. Već su postali standard.
Nemam pojma o čemu se radi. Trebao bih prvo vidjet po kojoj logici se daju takva cjepiva da bi prosudio logiku protivnika.
Neda mi se ulazit u to.


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