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Svaka tema koja govori o čovjekovoj surovosti je tema koja može služit osvještavanju.
Događaja ima bezbroj u svim segmentima ljudskog djelovanja.
Ne znam zašto ova tema zaslužuje specijalno izdvajanje po tom pitanju? Pogotovo kad se očigledno radi samo o navijačkom ludilu koji je poznat po svojoj ograničenosti a to je priroda ove teme.
Objasni ovo. O kakvom navijačkom ludilu govoriš? Kad već nešto tako bombastično tresneš onda budi konkretniji.

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Da bi čovjek razumio čovjeka prvo mora postavit stvari na svoje mjesto a zatim s obzirom na tu bazičnu spoznaju može krenut riješavat probleme.
Sve dok se čovjek ne suoči sa spoznajom da je samo jedna od životinja na ovoj planeti koja iz egzistencijalnih razloga (kao svaka životinja) koristi sve svoje sposobnosti za što udobnije preživljavanje a to podrazumijeva vlastito pozicioniranje na vrh piramide (bog), neće biti mogućnosti učiniti značajan evolutivni korak. Korak koji bi promijenio onu poznatu "povijest se ponavlja".
Ne znam kakve veze ima stavljanje stvari na mjesto i prihvaćanje statusa quo sjedeći skrštenih ruku i pijuckajući pivo i dupli konjak. Ljude se treba osvjestiti jer sve dok se stvari guraju pod tepih kreira se dojam da je sve manje-više u redu - business as usual. Laži, laži i opet laži. Uljuljkani umovi. Žao mi je ako ti to vidiš kao prihvatljivo rješenje a još više mi je žao što pokušaj osvještavanja putem informacija o realnosti vidiš kao navijačko ludilo.

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Nesposobnost suočavanja sa vlastitom prirodom nas stalno udaljava od razumijevanja samih sebe. Služimo se svim sredstvima samo da ne bi došli u poziciju da nam se sruši slika o savršenom bogu koji je stvorio baš nas ljude po svojoj slici. Ljudska vrsta je u kolektivnom smislu teško ovisna o toj drogi. Film Matrix je dobra analogija.
Bu-hu-hu... glavno da nalazimo opravdanja zbog kojih ne treba ništa poduzimati ... jer je to naša ljudska priroda.

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Ali, pitanje je da li se uopće išta tu može bitnog promijeniti. Zašto?
Upravo zato što nam priroda uporno govori o zakonima života. Lav, mačka ili kokoš će u svakom trenutku svog postojanja činiti samo najbolje što može za svoj opstanak. Najbolje uvijek ide na nečiju štetu. Život je davanje i primanje. Umiranje da bi novi život nastao.
Mislim da bi se ljudi itekako trebali razlikovati od lava, mačke ili kokoši.

Najbolje je, kao što sam već rekla, ništa ne poduzimat nego si drmnut jednu ljutu, zapalit čik i kvocat. To je svakako najbolje rješenje.


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Hajde i ja da kazem nesto.....poznato nam je svima da se nauka danas igra opasnih igara,a kad im u svet pobegne nesto opasno posezu za farmako-otrovima i tako udese coveka za vrbicu....da vise nikada nije slobodan od njihove brige za zdravlje....jer postaje sve bolesniji..i tom vrzinom kolu nema kraja.Ljudi su zaboravili na prirodu koja ima odgovor na svaki problem.......pre neki dan sam na TV videla vuka kako jede maslacak....zivotinje nisu izgubile vezu sa Prirodom...ljudi jesu.....


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.......pre neki dan sam na TV videla vuka kako jede maslacak....zivotinje nisu izgubile vezu sa Prirodom...ljudi jesu.....
Što (ni)je prirodno?


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Što (ni)je prirodno?
Sta je po tebi dobro ;tvrdnja moja da su ljudi izgubili vezu sa prirodom,...ili da nisu izgubili ? Dvosmislen si ,ili ja nisam dovoljno pametna da razumem tvoje pitanje?


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Sta je po tebi dobro ;tvrdnja moja da su ljudi izgubili vezu sa prirodom,...ili da nisu izgubili ? Dvosmislen si ,ili ja nisam dovoljno pametna da razumem tvoje pitanje?
Postoji li neka druga veza osim veza sa prirodom?
Čovjek jeste priroda i ne može ništa drugo biti.

Druga stvar je što imamo naviku idealizirati prirodu pa ono što nam se ne sviđa kategoriziramo kao neprirodno.
Jel Tzunami neprirodan? Potresi? Uragani?
Jel karcinom neprirodan?
Djeca rođena sa downovim sindromom?

Sva su živa bića na ovom planetu podložna bolesti, genetskim mutacijama i anomalijama. Bolestan Vuk nije bolestan zato što je izgubio vezu sa prirodom. Nema ništa prirodnijeg od bakterija ili virusa koji su uzrokovali njegovu bolest.


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Postoji li neka druga veza osim veza sa prirodom?
Čovjek jeste priroda i ne može ništa drugo biti.

Druga stvar je što imamo naviku idealizirati prirodu pa ono što nam se ne sviđa kategoriziramo kao neprirodno.
Jel Tzunami neprirodan? Potresi? Uragani?
Jel karcinom neprirodan?
Djeca rođena sa downovim sindromom?

Sva su živa bića na ovom planetu podložna bolesti, genetskim mutacijama i anomalijama. Bolestan Vuk nije bolestan zato što je izgubio vezu sa prirodom. Nema ništa prirodnijeg od bakterija ili virusa koji su uzrokovali njegovu bolest.
Zakljucak: ja nisam dovoljno pametna! Ipak znam da se ovde govori o lecenju konvencionalnim lekovima,,nasuprot lekovima iz prirode.Moj stav da smo trovani sintetickim lekovima, nikako se nemoze povezati sa prirodnim katastrofama, o kojima ti sada govoris ,u cilju da me izbacis sa teme
jer ti kao sagovornik nisam potrebna u ovom trenutku.Mogao si samo da me ignorises...bilo bi jednostavnije.


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Zakljucak: ja nisam dovoljno pametna! Ipak znam da se ovde govori o lecenju konvencionalnim lekovima,,nasuprot lekovima iz prirode.Moj stav da smo trovani sintetickim lekovima, nikako se nemoze povezati sa prirodnim katastrofama, o kojima ti sada govoris ,u cilju da me izbacis sa teme
jer ti kao sagovornik nisam potrebna u ovom trenutku.Mogao si samo da me ignorises...bilo bi jednostavnije.
U čemu je problem?
Vidim da se nešto ljutiš na mene a ne sjećam se da smo se posvađali?!

Rekla si da smo se odvojili od prirode. Ja sam odgovorio na to.

Mislim da su i sintetički lijekovi produkt prirode. Produkt nas koji jesmo priroda i koji koristimo prirodu.
Slažem se da se redovito trujemo. Ali to ne bih nazvao odvajanjem od prirode nego ignoriranjem znanja o mehanizmima prirode koji nam koriste, često u ime komocije.


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I dalje stojim na stanovistu da.. smo se otudjili od prirode..mozes ti sada filozofirati na temu sta je priroda.
U tom sveobuhvatnom smislu naravno da si u pravu....samo sto ja nisam ni usla u razgovor na tu temu.Samo tvrdim
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