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Na koji nacin je moguce ljudima instalirati lazna sjecanja? ovo se već n-ta osoba prema kojoj sam bio vise nego korektan, dapace savrseno dobar i na neki nacin sve dobro se pretvorilo u sve zlo. radi se o psihicki nestabilnim osobama, djelomicna patologija bi mi bila jasna, ali ovakav mind control me smeta. jako.

kako se ljudima u um ubacuju lazna sjecanja i osjecaji?

Dokazano je da imamo lažna sjećanja koje smo sami takvima stvorili.
Suočeni sa dramatičnim iskustvom ćemo skloniji biti isključivanju uobičajenog razuma jer stres traži brzu reakciju.
Situacija "fight or flight", "bori se il bježi". Ne mora to biti neka smrtonosna situacija. Ja bih to proširio na situacije gdje se čovjek susreo sa posve nepoznatim iskustvom. Mehanizam "fight or flight" se aktivira. Flight/bježi je sam po sebi razumljiv i tu nema previše mudrovanja. Fight je već puno složenija stvar jer moraš uspostavit odnos sa situacijom. Ako je situacija nepoznata a stav je fight, čovjek stjeran u kut otvara stražnji izlaz a to je bog, univerzalna inteligencija, reinkarnacija i sl.


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Dokazano je da imamo lažna sjećanja koje smo sami takvima stvorili.
Suočeni sa dramatičnim iskustvom ćemo skloniji biti isključivanju uobičajenog razuma jer stres traži brzu reakciju.
Situacija "fight or flight", "bori se il bježi". Ne mora to biti neka smrtonosna situacija. Ja bih to proširio na situacije gdje se čovjek susreo sa posve nepoznatim iskustvom. Mehanizam "fight or flight" se aktivira. Flight/bježi je sam po sebi razumljiv i tu nema previše mudrovanja. Fight je već puno složenija stvar jer moraš uspostavit odnos sa situacijom. Ako je situacija nepoznata a stav je fight, čovjek stjeran u kut otvara stražnji izlaz a to je bog, univerzalna inteligencija, reinkarnacija i sl.
Nije potrebno cak niti nista tako dramaticno. U psiholoskim eksperimentima lazna su sjecanja stvarali i vrlo indirektnim i neprimjetnim laganim sugestijama, odnosno sastavljajuci pitanja koja navode na odredjeni zakljucak istog se dogadjaja ljudi odgovarajuci i referirajuci pocinju razlicito sjecati. Ova neka onostrana iskustva i projekcije bih ipak nazvao necim drugim, a ne sjecanjem, osim kada se kasnije u prisjecanju i reinterpretaciji iskrivljuju, naravno.

Emotivna stanja doduse utjecu na memoriju, mozda najvise kroz to sto se na neki nacin kategorizira prema njima, odnosno ovisna su o emotivnom stanju i okolisu pa cemo nesto sto smo dozivjeli u odredjenom stanju lakse vratit u sjecanje u istom tom stanju (takodjer vrijedi za okolos), a teze se sjetiti u drugim stanjima.


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Na koji nacin je moguce ljudima instalirati lazna sjecanja? ovo se već n-ta osoba prema kojoj sam bio vise nego korektan, dapace savrseno dobar i na neki nacin sve dobro se pretvorilo u sve zlo. radi se o psihicki nestabilnim osobama, djelomicna patologija bi mi bila jasna, ali ovakav mind control me smeta. jako.

kako se ljudima u um ubacuju lazna sjecanja i osjecaji?

Lazna secanja NE POSTOJE! Ako su lazna, onda nisu secanja, vec laz, i to je kraj. Ako neko ne prepoznaje i ne razlikuje secanje od lazi, to je druga tema.

Mind control........ Lazni osecaji postoje... itekako postoje!!!! To je druga tema.

kako se ljudima u um ubacuju lazni osjecaji?
Kako? LAKO!

Ali ne od ljudi........ od koga?

Od onoga ko je stvorio coveka kao vrstu i nametnuo joj sopstvene zadatke, a da covek nije ni svestan ni sposoban da im se odupre.

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Zašto to netko ne bi mogao podmetnuti lažna sjećanja?
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covik svaki put kad se neceg siti to izvuce frisko i posli spremi nazad isto ili izmjenjeno. Sad ako san isto sjecanje 1000 puta po malo prominija i spremija ka orginal sta mi ostaje na kraju.
Vise puta mi se desilo da ljudi oko mene prisvoje dogadjaj koji se meni desija ka da se njima desia i uvjereni su u to. Isto tako vise i sam ne znam ko mi je isprica sta i razlicite price zabiljezin drugim ljudima. Sad za podvalit lazno sjecanje nekom, covik coviku ajmo rec, onda ovi mora imat prominjeno stanje svijesti makar i alkoholom. Sutra dan mu na bazi onog sta se sica ispunis rupe svojom pricom npr. Sica se izlaska iz diska, siptara i bureka, povracanje u portunu, krevet.
Obradjeno- izasa je iz diska, pokaza spolovilo mladoj susidi i dera se na nju i to onoj maloj Kati iz crkve sta mu se svidja, kuva zenu u pekari i falija joj brkove. pojia burek sa mesom i cokoladom. Povratija isprid vrata od prije spomenute mlade suside i isa lec valjda.Dvoje ljudi ovo potvrdi i eto sjecanje. Ili kad se starci sicaju prolosti....


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Zašto to netko ne bi mogao podmetnuti lažna sjećanja?
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NE MOZES SE SECATI NECEGA STO SE NIJE NI DESILO! To nije secanje nego promena svesti, gde svest vise ne razlikuje stvarne (secanje, realni dogadjaji iz proslosti koje nazivamo secanjima) od izmisljenih dogadja.

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NE MOZES SE SECATI NECEGA STO SE NIJE NI DESILO! To nije secanje nego promena svesti, gde svest vise ne razlikuje stvarne (secanje, realni dogadjaji iz proslosti koje nazivamo secanjima) od izmisljenih dogadja.
A dobro, nije šija nego vrat - radi se o semantici. S obzirom da ne razlikuje stvarno od podmetnutog, onda to za tu osobu jest sjećanje. Sjećanje ili "sjećanje".


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A dobro, nije šija nego vrat - radi se o semantici. S obzirom da ne razlikuje stvarno od podmetnutog, onda to za tu osobu jest sjećanje. Sjećanje ili "sjećanje".
po tebi nije sija nego stopalo...

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Ako ti se juce porodila tetka, onda se to desilo. Ako ti se u mislima pojavi nesto sto se desilo, onda je to SECANJE!

Ako ti se u mislima pojavi nesto sto se desilo, ali ti nisi u realnosti upoznata sa time (tetka ti je u australiji, i ti nisi cula za dogadjaj) onda je to VIZIJA!

Ako ti se u mislima pojavi nesto sto se nije desilo, nikada, onda je to ILUZIJA!

Kako mozes nazivati secanjem nesto sto se nije nikada ni desilo? Da li si ti ubedjena da jeste, to je druga tema... na primer svedocenja otmica od vanzemaljaca.
E, sada, kako NEKO ILI NESTO uspeva sve to uraditi, moze se diskutovati........
Misliti o necemu iz proslosti ne znaci secati se, jer se naknadno moze iskriviti realnosti i dodati masta.

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