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Nepročitano 25-07-15, 22:12   #31
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Lazna secanja NE POSTOJE! Ako su lazna, onda nisu secanja, vec laz, i to je kraj. Ako neko ne prepoznaje i ne razlikuje secanje od lazi, to je druga tema.
Ti si tu nešto pomiješao. Ovdje se govori o sjećanjima koja ne odgovaraju stvarnim događajima.


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NE MOZES SE SECATI NECEGA STO SE NIJE NI DESILO!
Fulao si temu. Tj. ti govoriš o jednom i iz te perspektive komentiraš drugo.


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Ako ti se u mislima pojavi nesto sto se nije desilo, nikada, onda je to ILUZIJA!
Ako se meni čini da se to uistinu dogodilo, onda se to naziva LAŽNO SJEĆANJE. Takav je općeprihvaćeni termin. Bez obzira da li se radilo o iluziji - jer iluzija ima i drugačijih, ne moraju biti u vidu lažnih sjećanja.

Takav je stručni termin Olio, ne vidim u čemu je problem?


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A dobro, nije šija nego vrat - radi se o semantici. S obzirom da ne razlikuje stvarno od podmetnutog, onda to za tu osobu jest sjećanje. Sjećanje ili "sjećanje".
Logički gledano to se može odnositi i na potvrde religijskih uvjerenja kao što je teorija karme tj. sljedećih života itd.

U svakom slućaju vrlo zanimljivo zapažanje...
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Logički gledano to se može odnositi i na potvrde religijskih uvjerenja kao što je teorija karme tj. sljedećih života itd.
Možeš malo pojasniti, nisam sigurna kako bi to išlo?


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Nepročitano 26-07-15, 10:04   #36
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Pa ima onih sjećanja ljudi na prošle živote koja se pokažu točnima zbog opisa nekih detalja.
Sukladno tome ljudi su skloni formirati uvjerenje da postoje prošli životi jer su dobili potvrdu ...
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Pa ima onih sjećanja ljudi na prošle živote koja se pokažu točnima zbog opisa nekih detalja.
Sukladno tome ljudi su skloni formirati uvjerenje da postoje prošli životi jer su dobili potvrdu ...
Aha, ok. Da - moglo bi biti, samo tko bi im podmetnuo to sjećanje.

Strah me i pomisliti na tu mogućnost jer to znači da je tamo negdje nešto zaista golemo i zastrašujuće što vuče konce i igra se s nama.


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Aha, ok. Da - moglo bi biti, samo tko bi im podmetnuo to sjećanje.

Strah me i pomisliti na tu mogućnost jer to znači da je tamo negdje nešto zaista golemo i zastrašujuće što vuče konce i igra se s nama.
Teško je reći, svakako može to biti i dio neke vrste 'matrixa' pa su ovo neka zaostala sjećanja u sustavu koje je netko uspio dohvatiti u svoj um. Možda smo i dio računalnog programa pa čekamo da nestane struje

U svakom slućaju jedino nam preostaje sadašnjost, a sve ostalo je um tj. njegove želje, predrasude, uvjerenja, lažni ja, lažni moral i lažna duhovnost...
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Teško je reći, svakako može to biti i dio neke vrste 'matrixa' pa su ovo neka zaostala sjećanja u sustavu koje je netko uspio dohvatiti u svoj um. Možda smo i dio računalnog programa pa čekamo da nestane struje

U svakom slućaju jedino nam preostaje sadašnjost, a sve ostalo je um tj. njegove želje, predrasude, uvjerenja, lažni ja, lažni moral i lažna duhovnost...
Sad kad si već spomenuo ... i ja imam nekih vrlo čudnih "iskustava" sa sjećanjima za koja nisam sigurna da su stvarna ili radi li se možda o snovima, ali nemaju teksturu sna (ne znam kako bih to drugačije opisala) ... ima takvih par sličica koje djeluju baš kao glitchevi u matrixu i ne mogu ih objasniti.

A znam iz prve ruke za još par ljudi koji su imali slične senzacije, tako da ... sve je moguće.


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Eto možda je to i znak da ne gubimo vrijeme na budućnost/smrt nego živimo život u punini i dozvolimo si neke stvari koje si branimo zbog određenih moralnih/religijskih programa.

U svakom slučaju za ljude je lakše kada vjeruju u nešto poslije, ali čisto gledajući nesavršenstvo ljudskog uma te njegovu podložnost raznim manipulacijama pitanje je tko/što od toga ima koristi ...

Za mene osobno je strašnije postojanje nekog sudca nego završetka...
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