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Na koji nacin je moguce ljudima instalirati lazna sjecanja? ovo se već n-ta osoba prema kojoj sam bio vise nego korektan, dapace savrseno dobar i na neki nacin sve dobro se pretvorilo u sve zlo. radi se o psihicki nestabilnim osobama, djelomicna patologija bi mi bila jasna, ali ovakav mind control me smeta. jako.

kako se ljudima u um ubacuju lazna sjecanja i osjecaji?

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a sto kazes na instant trigger?
u jednom trenutku istina je jasna kao plavo nebo, odjednom dodje laz kao grom iz vedra neba. i cijelo nebo se naoblaci, posivi i pocne oluja.

primjetio sam da su neke osobe jako osjetljive na EM valove, prvenstveno mislim na zracenja iz mobitela, kompjutera i tva. otprilike kao roboti kojima se daljinskim posalje signal programa koji trebaju izvrsiti.

mobiteli tu odlicno rade svoj posao.
ljudi jos bolje. netko mocan posalje svoju mantru zrtvi, a zrtvi se cijeli svjetonazor izmjeni.

mk-ultra pada na pamet, al ovo je precesto ultrabrzi mk.

tajne sluzbe padaju na pamet, remote vieweri takodjer.
sto kazes na remote executers? oni koji osim gledanja mogu i upravljati lutkicama/robotima.
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Ljudi znaju bit zatucani i sebični,pa i da im makneš planinu,nebi to cijenili.
Nit im netreba lažno sjećanje,jer oni profiltriraju ono loše a dobro koje si učinio odbace tako da to ni ne registriraju.

druga opcija je ona normalna:
Greysi te otmu,vrše pokuse na tebe i instaliraju lažnu memoriju haha
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7th, ja tebe ne kontam.
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Pamcenje u startu nije objektivno i fiksno. Jako puno ovisi o interpretaciji, emotvnom i ostalom psihickom stanju u nekom trenutku i tako dalje, a takodjer je podlozno kasnijem krivljenju.

Zatim, pamtimo fragmentarno, neke kljucne slike i situacije, a medjuprostor popunjavamo "improviziranim narativom", odnosno konstruiramo price i poveznice u kompletno sjecanje i tu ima dosta prostora za izmisljanja.

Dakle nije stvar u tome da se treba koristiti neke jako misticne tehnike da se sjecanja iskrive, ona to cine i sama po sebi, a "tehnike" su samo svjesna i kontrolirana usmjeravanja tih mehanizama.

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druga opcija je ona normalna:
Greysi te otmu,vrše pokuse na tebe i instaliraju lažnu memoriju haha
ova normalna opcija mi zvuci realnije. ti isti greysi normalno znaju ubrazat i usporit vrijeme po zelji. tak da oni u jednoj sekundi obave posao od nekoliko sati. normalno



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7th, ja tebe ne kontam.
zamisli situaciju u kad si u jednom trenutku svjetsko cudo i good guy u potpunosti, dodje do nekog vanjskog instant triggera i odjednom postanes gori od hitlera, busha i charles mansona zajedno. objektivno postane subjektivno, a subjekt apsolutna patologija.

opcija broj 2, sve isto samo je vremenski period duzi, a triggera ima vise.
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Pamcenje u startu nije objektivno i fiksno. Jako puno ovisi o interpretaciji, emotvnom i ostalom psihickom stanju u nekom trenutku i tako dalje, a takodjer je podlozno kasnijem krivljenju.

Zatim, pamtimo fragmentarno, neke kljucne slike i situacije, a medjuprostor popunjavamo "improviziranim narativom", odnosno konstruiramo price i poveznice u kompletno sjecanje i tu ima dosta prostora za izmisljanja.

Dakle nije stvar u tome da se treba koristiti neke jako misticne tehnike da se sjecanja iskrive, ona to cine i sama po sebi, a "tehnike" su samo svjesna i kontrolirana usmjeravanja tih mehanizama.

Vecina utjecaja iz vana sa ciljem stvaranja laznih sjecanja ili iskrivljavanja postojecih se moze svesti na neki oblik sugestije, al to je samorazumljivo.
dugorocno iskrivljavanje i subjektivnost pamcenja razumijem. sve sto si napisao je tocno.

muci me instant transformacija bez vidljih uzroka. najrealnije tumacenje, koliko god cudno bilo je slanje misli na daljinu labilnim osobama.

tek odnedavno sam shvatio da se to radi, bez da subjekt ima pojima o tome. govorom se moze manipulirati labilni subjekt brzo i lako, za telepatsku manipulaciju je potreban odredjen stupanj iskustva i moci.
manipulacija takodjer moze biti pozitivna ili negativna. razlika je ako Ti mislima saljes osobi kontinuiranu mantru mozes sve, osvjesti To ili krepaj smrade, ne vrijedis pisljiva boba.

u oba slucaja govorimo o psihicki osjetljivim i labilnim osobama.
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zamisli situaciju u kad si u jednom trenutku svjetsko cudo i good guy u potpunosti, dodje do nekog vanjskog instant triggera i odjednom postanes gori od hitlera, busha i charles mansona zajedno. objektivno postane subjektivno, a subjekt apsolutna patologija.

opcija broj 2, sve isto samo je vremenski period duzi, a triggera ima vise.[/quote]

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Neki eksperimenti postoje koji daju odredjenu realnost telepatiji, medjutim to je vrlo daleko od tako snaznog uticaja.

Citah jednom misljenja jogija/okultista koji je eksperimentirao time pa utvrdio da je (a radi se o osobi koja je je vjezbala vise manje konstantno cijeli zivot u izoloaciji) "direktno upravljanje ljudskim umovima" iznimno tesko i ograniceno cak i sa vrlo malom i nerazvijenom djecom, nesto lakse sa zivotinjama, gotovo nemoguce sa odraslima. Naravno nisam siguran da je niti toliko, radi se o necijoj prici o samom sebi, moze bit laz ili deluzija.

S druge strane na ljudska bica je iznimno lako utjecati sugestijom, drustvenim pritiscima, fizickom okolinom i tako dalje. Labilne pak osobe ne trebaju telepatske utjecaje, ako su tako labilni i puno banalniji (ili nikakvi, samim svojom promjenjivom prirodom) ih mogu "rasturit".

Prije bih takve promjene pripisao psiholoskim uzrocima (psihoza, bipolar, sto bilo), a trazenje uzroka u telepatiji vidio kao simptom (paranoja, magijski neralni svjetonazor sizofrenicara ili sizotipa isl) nego stvarni uzrok.


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