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Ima jedna zanimljivost, dobavljačica kefira koja je bila na Kavkazu, rekla je da seljaci ta zrnca ne ispiru, samo ih prebace u drugu posudu sa svježim mlijekom, a kad se razmnože, jedu ta zrnca.
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Da, taj mliječni kefir koji ti se upljesnivio je onaj koji sam ja isprobala "tibetanski", i koji sam bacila.

Vodeni kefir nisam nikad imala niti znam ako tko ima. Da taj tibetanski koji se upljesnivi nije u stvari vodeni, pa ga stavljaju u mlijeko?

Kažeš da si imao i moju vrstu, nazovimo ga "kavkaz", i da ti se jako brzo razmožavao i da si koristio veliku količinu gljivica? Kod mojeg kefira nije tako, treba ga jako malo za brzo fermentiranje i jačinu kiselosti. Ako mi ostane par dana, bude prekiselo, neupotrebljivo. I sporo se razmnožava.

Znam neke koji za kefir koriste sojino umjesto kravlje mlieko. Nije neki okus, kažu. I na kozjem mlijeku su radili, to je ok.
nisam imao taj tvoj nego obicni. velika je razlika izmedju tog mlijecnog i ovog vodenog tako da nevjerujem da se radi o istoj stvari. no budem metio vodenu gljvicu u mlijeko i objavit cu tu zapazanja.

pa eto mozemo jednom izvrsiti razmjenu, ja tebi vodeni a ti meni taj tvoj posebni mlijecni.


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Ima jedna zanimljivost, dobavljačica kefira koja je bila na Kavkazu, rekla je da seljaci ta zrnca ne ispiru, samo ih prebace u drugu posudu sa svježim mlijekom, a kad se razmnože, jedu ta zrnca.
pa dobro, ispire se radi higijene no i ja mislim da to nije potrebno. smanjilo bi se vrijeme potroseno na dnevno pranje gljvica kada nebi to radili.

razmisljao sam i ja da ih jedem, ove vodene. kada mi se bude jako razmnozilo a nebudem imao kome da dam onda budem i ja probao papati.


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mislim da sam imao tu tvoju vrstu.
A evo, ovo si rekao pa sam tako i shvatila
Ja sam ZA razmjenu. Čim se malo razmnoži. Vidit ćeš kolicno ih imam kad ih uslikam za par dana , a tako su moćni!
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napravi neku salatu s njima ili ih ubaci u kajganu XD


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Može i bez kajgane, zrnce kefira se sastoji od proteina, masti i ugljikohidrata
Cjelovit jutarnji obrok prehrane u Zoni
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pa eto samo sto se presporo razmnozava da bi se koristio za prehranu.
stvarno bi trebao biti u velikim kolicinama da se svakodnevna prehrana nadoknadi razmnozavanjem.
recimo da imas 10kg i da svaki dan prirodnim putem nastane 1kg. tada bi mogla jesti svaki dan 1kg gljivica do kraja zivota. ali treba i secera trositi....


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nabavio sam smedji secer tj secer od secerne trske koji je inace zdraviji pa cemo viditi kako ce utjecati na gljivice.

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evo stavio sam smedji secer od trske (6 velikih zlica) u 2l mlake vode i dodao svoje vodene gljivice. pojeo sam jednu zlicu i mogu reci da je ukusno i lijepe teksture u ustima, pogotovo ako je neoprana i onako fino slatka i okusa limunade :D

sada u zimske dane ju drzim uz reflektor da se zagrije, tako da je konstantno mlaka i brze fermentira. orgoniti su obavezno oko tegle a sa gljviicama se kupaju i spice gorskih kristala. budem dodao i oble rozenkvarce.
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update: cini se da gljivici vise odgovara bijeli secer od smedjeg. drasticno usporava rast i preradu secera. mozda joj smeta ta smedja boja secera...


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mislim da bi uz bijeli secer pun pogodak bio dodavat u njih tekuce koloidne minerale.. kapnes 2-3 kapi i onda kefir ne bude "mineralno prazan".. ili se stavlja vec nesto u tu svrhu?

ovako sam ja nesto imo... samo kvalitetniji brand u staklu mislim da je doso..


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